Barry Jennings 9/11 WTC7 witness is DEAD

mikej82 · Post by **mikej82** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:04 pm

Heres George Bush Sr New World Order speech in 1991

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo

p.s take note of the date

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:25 pm

The first quatrain to hit email inboxes on 9/11 contained the prediction that a "great thunder" would be heard in the "City of God":

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb",
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
- Nostradamus 1654

Let the interpreting begin. Assuming "the City of God" is New York City, then the "two brothers torn apart by Chaos" must be the fallen towers of the Word Trade Center. The "fortress" is clearly the Pentagon, the "great leader" succumbing to Chaos must be the United States of America, and "the third big war" can only mean World War III.

World War IV - Send in Bob Hope

World War V - The Sunni's Strike Back

World War VI - Return Of The Clintons

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:39 pm

You'll find no bigger critic of the United States - and their foreign policy in particular - than myself.

However, having looked at the evidence, I don't think it was an inside job.

People always like to think there's a conspiracy behind all the major events in history (e.g. man on the moon, JFK shooting, Diana death) - usually, however, the evidence points to there being no conspiracy whatsoever.

mikej82 · Post by **mikej82** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:26 pm

Cardinal Richelieu wrote:You'll find no bigger critic of the United States - and their foreign policy in particular - than myself.

However, having looked at the evidence, I don't think it was an inside job.

People always like to think there's a conspiracy behind all the major events in history (e.g. man on the moon, JFK shooting, Diana death) - usually, however, the evidence points to there being no conspiracy whatsoever.

Bloody tons of evidence

WTC 1/2 & WTC 7 coming down at free fall speed

videos of showing flashes going off in WTC 1 & 2

witnesses hearing explosions

document entitled Project For New American Century (PNAC) asking for a New Pearl Harbour type event to happen in order to change the world.

George Bush Sr AND Gordon Brown asking for a New World Order meaning one government to control the whole entire world.

the planes shown on tv were faked = tv fakery (plane inserted)

no plane wreckage at any of the sites

witnesses seeing missiles

live coverage on 9/11 wasnt live - delayed by 17 seconds

footage highly edited backdrops tampered with

pentagon cctv videos showing no boeing 747

Invading Iraq is the smoking gun (no WMD's - proof on video in 2001)

references in X-files Lone Gun Men about flying planes into the world trade center faking terrorist attacks = false flag terrorism

The Simpsons - Bart holding up advert which says new york 9/11 - 11 represents the twin towers backdrop. laughs and waves bundle of money at it

william cooper several months before 9/11 saying the government is planning an attack on its own people. bin laden will be the baddie in this 'movie'

ex mi5 agent david shayler saying 9/11 was an inside job (google shayler read why he was jailed in late 90's)

dont forget the govs version is a conspiracy theory aswell which has been debunked & taken apart.

i could go on and on and on.

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:34 pm

I would take you a bit more seriously if you didn't cite an episode of the Simpsons as "evidence".

Do you believe that any of the other events I mentioned were conspiracies?? (JFK, Moon landings and Diana)

mikej82 · Post by **mikej82** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:40 pm

Cardinal Richelieu wrote:I would take you a bit more seriously if you didn't cite an episode of the Simpsons as "evidence".

Do you believe in any of the other conspiracies I mentioned?

i believe princess diana was murdered from the evidence on the internet

if you did the research you'll know the car was switched at the very last moment

also the cameras were not working on that day (17 intotal)

someone 'flashed' a light at the car which resulted in them crashing (not from a bloody bump in the road)

the guy who flashed the light was found burnt to death in his car

want me to talk about the 7/7 london bombings?

mikej82 · Post by **mikej82** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:45 pm

Cardinal Richelieu wrote:I would take you a bit more seriously if you didn't cite an episode of the Simpsons as "evidence".

Do you believe that any of the other events I mentioned were conspiracies?? (JFK, Moon landings and Diana)

well take me seriously and watch the clip on Youtube type simpsons 911

also in the movie The Matrix - neos passport expires 9/11/01

Independence Day - bomb timer set at 091101

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:14 pm

What about the late 90's UK boy band called 911. They must have been in on it as well.

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:21 pm

I can't honestly tell if you're on the wind-up. Assuming you're not...

Here's Mike's evidence that the 9/11 bombing was pre-planned - this was made 6 months before the attacks

So let me get this straight. An animator who works on the Simpsons (which is mostly animated in South Korea but let's not worry about that) was somehow privy to the information that the USA was going to blow up the World Trade Centre on the 11th September. He decided that the best course of action to take would be to slip a subtle reference to it in one of the scenes and then not say another word about it.

What annoys me about this particular conspiracy theory is that it deflects attention away from America's real crime - namely their rapacious foreign policy which has killed millions in .... Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Philippines, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Haiti, Bosnia, Chile, Afghanistan, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam etc.

If you are interested in conspiracies, you might like to focus on a more believable one, such as the scandalous imprisonment of the supposed Lockerbie bomber, Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi - who is currently holed up in a Scottish jail at the behest of the Americans.

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:23 pm

harry2 wrote:What about the late 90's UK boy band called 911. They must have been in on it as well.

Chortle.

And while we're on the subject, 911 is also the telephone number for the emergency services in, of all places, the USA.

Coincidence? I think not.

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:27 pm

to keep this fair ," the matrix "was mentioned

mikej82 · Post by **mikej82** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:48 pm

Cardinal Richelieu wrote:I can't honestly tell if you're on the wind-up. Assuming you're not...

Here's Mike's evidence that the 9/11 bombing was pre-planned - this was made 6 months before the attacks

So let me get this straight. An animator who works on the Simpsons (which is mostly animated in South Korea but let's not worry about that) was somehow privy to the information that the USA was going to blow up the World Trade Centre on the 11th September. He decided that the best course of action to take would be to slip a subtle reference to it in one of the scenes and then not say another word about it.

What annoys me about this particular conspiracy theory is that it deflects attention away from America's real crime - namely their rapacious foreign policy which has killed millions in .... Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Philippines, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Haiti, Bosnia, Chile, Afghanistan, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam etc.

If you are interested in conspiracies, you might like to focus on a more believable one, such as the scandalous imprisonment of the supposed Lockerbie bomber, Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi - who is currently holed up in a Scottish jail at the behest of the Americans.

9/11 is not based on that simpsons reference may i add.

theres many things you have to look at

especially ex mi5 agent david shayler
Shayler stated that MI6 had been involved in a failed assassination attack on Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi in February 1996 without the permission of the then foreign secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind (required under British and international law[citation needed]). The plot involved paying the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group with supporters in London and links to Al-Qaeda £100,000 to carry out the attack.[11] The group was paid to plant a bomb underneath Gaddafi's motorcade. The attack happened in March 1996 in the coastal city of Sirte. The bomb was planted under the wrong car and failed to kill Gaddafi but did result in the deaths of several innocent civilians.[10] In November 1999 he sent a dossier of detailed evidence of this including the names of those involved to then home secretary Jack Straw who stated that he was looking into the matter[12] as well as Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee and the police. In 2005, the LIFG was banned as a terrorist group in Britain.

He also stated that the intelligence services were deliberately planting stories in newspapers and the mainstream media by feeding willing journalists with misinformation, such as a November 1996 article in the Sunday Telegraph by Con Coughlin linking Colonel Gaddafi's son with a currency counterfeiting operation citing the source as a British banking official when in reality the source was MI6. This was later confirmed when Gaddafi's son served the paper with a libel writ which later admitted the true source of the information.[13]

According to Shayler the 1994 bombing of the Israeli embassy in London was known to the intelligence services before the event happened and could have been prevented.

The British government later placed an injunction on the republication of Shayler's claims although this was later lifted on 2 November 1997 allowing the paper to print his claims of how the bombing of the Israeli Embassy in London in 1994 could have been prevented if the service had acted on prior knowledge it had obtained. On the 19 June 1998 he told The Spectator magazine that the security service had information that could have prevented the 1993 Bishopsgate bombing. After revealing information to the Mail on Sunday in August 1997 Shayler fled the day prior to publication, first to Utrecht in the Netherlands and then later to France with his girlfriend and former colleague Annie Machon and was arrested by French police on 1 August 1998 with an extradition warrant on the request of the British government and then held in La Santé Prison for four months under the prisoner number 269151F.[14] On 18 November 1998 the French courts decided that the British government's extradition request was politically motivated and therefore not grounds for extradition.

Operation Northwoods example of false flag operation/terrorism
Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false flag conspiracy plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".

This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that would blame the terrorist acts on foreign governments.

The plan states, "The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere." Operation Northwoods was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and signed by then-Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, and sent to the Secretary of Defense.

Several other proposals were listed, including the real or simulated actions against various U.S military and civilian targets. Operation Northwoods was part of the U.S. government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative. It was never officially accepted or executed.

little bit about Robin Cook & that famous article about Al-CIA-QAIDA

Cook described Al-Qaida as a product of a western miscalculation, in a 2005 newspaper column:

"Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.

WTC No Plane Theory (Part 4) ( live shot no plane - evening news plane)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FgbqtGGBmk0

WTC Demolition "flashes" of charges going off
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wYhXLhfWDB0

High quality video of WTC collapse (boom boom boom boom)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jyWoWWX6Y ... re=related

WTC collapse, flashes+ upward projectiles
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Zowu1Ib6p ... re=related

911 Commission - Trans. Sec Norman Mineta Testimony (stand down order) Let it happen on purpose???????????????????????
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld etc. - THE ULTIMATE CLIP
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o

Bush jokes about 2800 US deaths
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jA2q00caZ ... re=related

aaamusements.co.uk · Post by **aaamusements.co.uk** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:50 pm

mikej82 wrote:want me to talk about the 7/7 london bombings?

Please don't.

My sister was fortunate enough to emerge almost entirely (physically) unscathed from the train at Aldgate.

Any suggestion that this act was government sponsored will not be welcome.

mikej82 · Post by **mikej82** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:58 pm

aaamusements.co.uk wrote:
mikej82 wrote:want me to talk about the 7/7 london bombings?
Please don't.

My sister was fortunate enough to emerge almost entirely (physically) unscathed from the train at Aldgate.

Any suggestion that this act was government sponsored will not be welcome.

sorry but the photo they showed of these people entering the station was doctored, its fake.

and the 7.40 train they took was CANCELED

they were doing bomb drills at the same time same place (same with 9/11)

Watch this - 7/7 Ripple Effect - (1/7)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lE6L-yLclzs

7/7 Ripple Effect - (2/7)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fNiyOEDHa ... re=related

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:15 pm

Well thanks for all that irrelevance about Shayler. Given that he had been out of MI5 for more than 4 years prior to the attack, I don't think much credence can be given to his theories.

He's also stated he is the Messiah - do you believe that too?

http://www.911blogger.com/node/10314

As for the videos, the quality is too low to tell what is going on, and there could be any number of explanations about the white flashes.

It's interesting that among conspiracy theorists, opinion is divided about what happened. Some people think that there no planes - only missiles. Others think that planes were used but it was planned by the US. And yet more think (and this is the most likely) that the US government knew about the plan but did nothing to stop it.