DOND - tampered with?

rogerthymes · Post by **rogerthymes** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:35 pm

It seems to be almost unplayable to me now. Have they changed it? Sad to see it decline it was always a decent earner.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Sat May 10, 2008 12:07 pm

Unplayable in which way? Ridiculous 'game breaker' questions, or stupidly high targets all the time. Or, a combination of the above?

I 'used' to always give this a punt, but I've also noticed that the targets are now frequently 60k+, which for me is a no no.

rogerthymes · Post by **rogerthymes** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:56 pm

Often a combination but even when a low target is offered the questions are - as you say - ridiculous - not even worth memorizing. Once I had a 17,000 target and still couldn't get it!
Good while it lasted I suppose.

cool · Post by **cool** » Sat May 10, 2008 11:25 pm

I have been proven wrong before - but dond is not doctored- if you think so dont play it- I will!

Properpro · Post by **Properpro** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:16 am

cool wrote:I have been proven wrong before - but dond is not doctored- if you think so dont play it- I will!

I agree with Cool. In my opinion DOND is just sitting in harder and harder levels. This game has now been out for some considerable time and is simply tired, even the punters have learnt to play it when the easy money is available. What is interesting, (despite it being a very long game), is that when you do qualify the end game still appears to be random and there are good prizes to be had.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Sun May 11, 2008 10:51 am

I'd certainly agree with Cool and PP that the main bit of DOND has not been chipped or made more difficult. It's got tougher over time, but as PP says, no doubt that is because a good proportion of players will be able to do well at it nowadays. In fact, I think it's a bit easier now than it was say six months ago, when 50K+ targets seemed to be almost universal (at least where I was playing).

I'm not sure I can agree that the endgame is totally fair though - I agree it's not bad but I do think the proportion of blue prizes has risen over time. Maybe I'm just imagining it though - I don't play DOND that often any more (I think the profit per time ratio is not good enough) so I may not have a big enough sample size in terms of endgames reached.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Sun May 11, 2008 11:05 am

profit per time ratio is not good enough

Entirely the reason I posted:

I 'used' to always give this a punt...

I'd agree with the lines that more and more people 'play to win' on this, and even if they lower the targets, they'll claw out a prize and it'll be back into 50k+ territory.

I don't want to crack open the whole 'is the end game fixed / random' debate again, but I 'guess' it's one of those things that we'll probably never know.

BigEd · Post by **BigEd** » Sun May 11, 2008 7:58 pm

My guess is:

1) DOND has not been chipped.
2) Less and less ordinary people play this now
3) Pro players are pushing this into harder and harder levels as they take money from one another, as no "casual player" money is available.
4) Less and less ordinary people play this now, as it is getting harder and harder, and now seems impossible to win on.
5) Go back to point 3) and so on....

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Sun May 11, 2008 10:42 pm

i've not played it since it came out. too boring. i did play NQ while it was around but the straight game has never had any appeal for me. and i'm the average punter.

the only people who are still playing it are those who take these things seriously, ergo it is getting harder.

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Sun May 11, 2008 11:47 pm

A red hot tip for DOND NQ...

The first box offered is always a DEAL.

Keep it under your hats gents. Loose lips cause rechips etc.

QuizMaster · Post by **QuizMaster** » Mon May 12, 2008 8:27 am

Please stop claiming to be the average punter. If you were you would play Monopoly, DOND, Pub Quiz etc and if you played Word Up you best ever word would be 'Cat' or Dog'

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:10 am

QM: Who is that comment directed at?

Edit: Er, ignore that, I should've completely read the thread beforehand...

cool · Post by **cool** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:46 am

does seem a bit odd that a moderator can be an average punter, in that you must spend time trawling through so much information on quiz machines and it would be boring if you are not an addict. However, if you were a serious player you would be pleased to get away from it 'after work' and I'm grateful that somebody is happy to do the job that would see the site fall apart without you overseeing it.

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Mon May 12, 2008 10:05 am

okay, i'm a good amateur then. or, to use Cool's terminology, 'an addict'.
as for the moderation, all i do is split threads which go tangential and delete occasional spam.

Nil Satis · Post by **Nil Satis** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:29 am

I'd say Sue/Istenem is the average punter in the sense that he is attracted by the "playability" of games much more than the small number of serious players are. Hence the enthusiasm for something like Back to School, which has quite a high level of playability but a low chance of any regular decent wins. The same would apply to Monopoly, whose popularity seems entirely due to the pretty pictures and bonus games etc, as opposed to anything people are actually winning in the 100%-fiddled end game.

No harm with this I suppose in that we all seek different things from our time spent playing the machines, although I reserve the right to continue to pour my usual scorn on any games that DON'T offer decent prizes...