Yeah man, I totally agree with PMK here, if it was ARB and someone drained £20 and left it £20 off and it was still £10 f**kin happy, who on here wouldn't get stuck in? Just a sham it ripped the piss, we've all had it.
BFK
Box Fresh Kesh - Armed and Dangerous!
Staggered £350 on Vortex
Vortex does NOT random arb my friend.Spyder wrote:the arb was a suck in, just one of the random ones that red machines have dropped on you every few times you play
It was arb when the other people were on it consistently and full. They took a red star prize and a fiver and left straight away.
I'm sure most players on this board would have chased it from that stage. It gambled to a tenner second board so we got stuck in expecting a £30- £50 to red it up for maybe £70ish out. This would be normal prodedure. After £50-£70 and still no arb we felt we had to red it up(also normal procedure) on this machine in my mind. It ripped the piss like ALL reds do at some point.
I believe it hadn't been smashed the night before otherwise we would have been a lot worse off, it was just one of those mad red moments that can occur.
Only random shows when £3 or above win available which is most of the time on mega game.
PMK, you were unlucky my friend, had one of those bad sessions where it seems like an end will never come. When you are that much in you just have to persist as it will give in eventually.
Also doesn't have to show all the time for an end to be there, had them going that didn't show red at all before just have to rely on other signs.
PMK, you were unlucky my friend, had one of those bad sessions where it seems like an end will never come. When you are that much in you just have to persist as it will give in eventually.
Also doesn't have to show all the time for an end to be there, had them going that didn't show red at all before just have to rely on other signs.
-
Mr Bubbles
- Senior Member
- Posts: 225
- Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:02 pm
Re: Staggered £350 on Vortex
I know who the muppets are, they're a group of textile-based puppets used in light televisual entertainment.jb13 wrote:PMK wrote:Wandered into a local haunt which has vortex and Snakes in.
Muppets playing a vortex that was arb. Collected red star prize and then a fiver and left it £20 off.
On step me and another board member. Straight chase, £120 in(ouch) to get it arb. £230 in to get a top(just constant bad numbers). Flat.
Takes all that £35 back plus another tenner(now £240 in) and another top £105. I am now thinking its still definately gonna be there so just re-chase. No signs, no arb obviously past £5 and £10 happy.
Get Down to £40 in bank, still no arb and still no top. Down to £30 and then £35 top. Next board arb £70 top. Next board arb bitched on a 3 for MS. Next board £105!!!
£350 staggered(very) run!! Ended up about £16 down on it.
Sweat and tears during chase, panick after first £105 dissapeared down to £30 in seconds!) Then relief for 3 quick tops £35, £70 and £105!!
Have had Invincibles do this but not Vortex. Secretly tho.......I loved it!!!
Ended up £16 down and I guess about 1 hour of your time. So the two muppets who were on it before could have left the machine possibly £10/15 up. Now here is my question to this board who do you think the muppets are?
But if you wouldn't chase it from this position I'd feel you may be, at least distantly, related to one of them.
being that it was genuinely arb when you saw them play and they only left it £20 off, it has to have been refill from the previous day where someone has left a jp in it from a streak, or people have banked loads of red features the previous day then refill..
as £20 cannot kill it from red on vortex ever, wouldn't happen... unlucky situation, doesnt fake red from nothing there like new ones, £20 off amd you have seen redding you can't think its far off - infact rather than thinking its £50 for £70 as you said, I'd be thinking more on the lines of £30 for £70 and it being still red to start, £20 CANNOT KILL VORTEX FROM REDDING.
as £20 cannot kill it from red on vortex ever, wouldn't happen... unlucky situation, doesnt fake red from nothing there like new ones, £20 off amd you have seen redding you can't think its far off - infact rather than thinking its £50 for £70 as you said, I'd be thinking more on the lines of £30 for £70 and it being still red to start, £20 CANNOT KILL VORTEX FROM REDDING.
ive got a feeling we're all getting mistaken about the way red gaming machines give "red" features..
way back when "fruits you sir" and "lock and load"and "fairground" came out they could be read quite easily by the amount of red features offered,
when i refer to fake "redding" i mean you get on the board and the majority of features are red, this used to work as an indication on the OLD reds, it also seemed to be a pretty good indication on more or less every red since,
red features can be shown even when the machine only wants to offer you about a fiver, every now and again most reds can drop in a board with mainly red features, you die on the board without getting offered them, thus fake redding... sometimes this is when you have hidden fatures a few nudges away. sometimes it just seems to be for the hell of it.
can anyone tell me what the hell everyone else is on about cause im pretty sure everyones got their wires crossed here...
also, what does everyone else think is happening when one board you get offered a lot of red features, and the next you get one, then the next board is red again... red/green/red/green.... is this a good sign? or does it always have to be "all red but one" lol
way back when "fruits you sir" and "lock and load"and "fairground" came out they could be read quite easily by the amount of red features offered,
when i refer to fake "redding" i mean you get on the board and the majority of features are red, this used to work as an indication on the OLD reds, it also seemed to be a pretty good indication on more or less every red since,
red features can be shown even when the machine only wants to offer you about a fiver, every now and again most reds can drop in a board with mainly red features, you die on the board without getting offered them, thus fake redding... sometimes this is when you have hidden fatures a few nudges away. sometimes it just seems to be for the hell of it.
can anyone tell me what the hell everyone else is on about cause im pretty sure everyones got their wires crossed here...
also, what does everyone else think is happening when one board you get offered a lot of red features, and the next you get one, then the next board is red again... red/green/red/green.... is this a good sign? or does it always have to be "all red but one" lol
Listen no offence meant, but I know when a red is redding.
You seem to be saying that vortex is a latest release red and it isn't.
Yes I am aware that if hiddens are awarded from nudges and also pears and upwards are there it will/can be a mainly red glow.
However Vortex, does not throw in arb1/2/3 boards when say on one nudge and no wins unless it is ready. That my friend is FACT.
The example I gave was that it was throwing in arb boards with no wins and had £20 drained from it. As OB said this MAY have been the result to the end of a run or after some serious drainage had occured. The fact that it cost £120 to red up from our start point could back this up, however the fact that we got pretty much money back could also mean it was almost there but held back from showing.
Either way, whether it was the right decision to chase or not, I think any good players on this board would agree that once you go a certain amount in on a vortex via a chase, you have to get it red to ensure at least a £70/£105 whether it be all in one top or via a staggered run.
It seems you are the only one who is not of this opinion spyder? However I agree that if a quick top is available through less than say £30 in and you don't its previous playing history then I agree sod if its red, take a top and see what happens. However having dones this before on more than a few occasions I would say 90% of the time it goes flat and then goes back to the £5 block.
Just my opinion, but I think its the opinion of most, except yours it would seem!!!
You seem to be saying that vortex is a latest release red and it isn't.
Yes I am aware that if hiddens are awarded from nudges and also pears and upwards are there it will/can be a mainly red glow.
However Vortex, does not throw in arb1/2/3 boards when say on one nudge and no wins unless it is ready. That my friend is FACT.
The example I gave was that it was throwing in arb boards with no wins and had £20 drained from it. As OB said this MAY have been the result to the end of a run or after some serious drainage had occured. The fact that it cost £120 to red up from our start point could back this up, however the fact that we got pretty much money back could also mean it was almost there but held back from showing.
Either way, whether it was the right decision to chase or not, I think any good players on this board would agree that once you go a certain amount in on a vortex via a chase, you have to get it red to ensure at least a £70/£105 whether it be all in one top or via a staggered run.
It seems you are the only one who is not of this opinion spyder? However I agree that if a quick top is available through less than say £30 in and you don't its previous playing history then I agree sod if its red, take a top and see what happens. However having dones this before on more than a few occasions I would say 90% of the time it goes flat and then goes back to the £5 block.
Just my opinion, but I think its the opinion of most, except yours it would seem!!!
-
Matt Vinyl
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7198
- Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 6:56 pm
- Location: Lost in the outback, Bryan
My opinion, 'kind of a mixture of both'.
I'd force 'every board' on a Vortex for a top, regardless of feature status. When you take on one and it's redding from the off, yes, you are probably a lot nearer to getting the top than if it is blueing.
I have found recently though, that I've had far more tops from non-arb boards on this than when they are all glowing red. The bosrd after that has then generally arb'd and gone up for a £35/£70 (dependant on first top value).
So, perhaps someone had taken a top (value not necessarily relevant) then the guys you saw could have gone for the second top, but instead drained most of the 'next top' value via features. You stepped up, and it was back at the beginning of the cycle?
Just an opinion, of course, but I will re-iterate, that out of the 4 or 5 Vortexs that I play on a weekly basis, 75% of tops (that have given a total of £105 in either 1 straight (rare) or two £35/£70 & £35/£70) have come from non-red boards.
I'd force 'every board' on a Vortex for a top, regardless of feature status. When you take on one and it's redding from the off, yes, you are probably a lot nearer to getting the top than if it is blueing.
I have found recently though, that I've had far more tops from non-arb boards on this than when they are all glowing red. The bosrd after that has then generally arb'd and gone up for a £35/£70 (dependant on first top value).
So, perhaps someone had taken a top (value not necessarily relevant) then the guys you saw could have gone for the second top, but instead drained most of the 'next top' value via features. You stepped up, and it was back at the beginning of the cycle?
Just an opinion, of course, but I will re-iterate, that out of the 4 or 5 Vortexs that I play on a weekly basis, 75% of tops (that have given a total of £105 in either 1 straight (rare) or two £35/£70 & £35/£70) have come from non-red boards.
"And do you ever contradict yourself, Minister?" "Well, yes and no..."
[quote="Matt Vinyl"]My opinion, 'kind of a mixture of both'.
Just an opinion, of course, but I will re-iterate, that out of the 4 or 5 Vortexs that I play on a weekly basis, 75% of tops (that have given a total of £105 in either 1 straight (rare) or two £35/£70 & £35/£70) have come from non-red boards. ]
Yeah but was it redding before hand? I am not referring to the ACTUAL board that eventually goes to the top, but to its redness on previous boards, obviously even when flying not every board is arb but most are and of course you get the constant £8/£10 wins.
I dont play any attention to redness on SMTM's and Snakes, but more to the constant offering of high wins, this is there way of showing that they are ready.
I still maintain that vortex's on most occasions will be arb(from no nudge wins) in order to give a decent streak, sometimes you dont see this if they are deady straight away because all they do is spin in the higher wins. But if you were to drop it down to a lower stake where no nudge win boards are more common I think it would red on a higher %age of boards.
Just an opinion, of course, but I will re-iterate, that out of the 4 or 5 Vortexs that I play on a weekly basis, 75% of tops (that have given a total of £105 in either 1 straight (rare) or two £35/£70 & £35/£70) have come from non-red boards. ]
Yeah but was it redding before hand? I am not referring to the ACTUAL board that eventually goes to the top, but to its redness on previous boards, obviously even when flying not every board is arb but most are and of course you get the constant £8/£10 wins.
I dont play any attention to redness on SMTM's and Snakes, but more to the constant offering of high wins, this is there way of showing that they are ready.
I still maintain that vortex's on most occasions will be arb(from no nudge wins) in order to give a decent streak, sometimes you dont see this if they are deady straight away because all they do is spin in the higher wins. But if you were to drop it down to a lower stake where no nudge win boards are more common I think it would red on a higher %age of boards.
spyder you are wrong here, vortex does not fake red as pmk said.
Matt the fact you have got tops from blue boards is a co-incidence, in my view, when the machine is there for red it randomly either shows it or not on a specific board - coincidentally you've got it from the boards that didn't show red.
The ones that do are: SMTM, cashcade, COB, copper load of this, jackpotty etc.etc. new ones basically
Matt the fact you have got tops from blue boards is a co-incidence, in my view, when the machine is there for red it randomly either shows it or not on a specific board - coincidentally you've got it from the boards that didn't show red.
The ones that do are: SMTM, cashcade, COB, copper load of this, jackpotty etc.etc. new ones basically
-
Matt Vinyl
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7198
- Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 6:56 pm
- Location: Lost in the outback, Bryan
Vortex does not fake red. I've forced enough Vortex's in different locations to know, If you get 1 board thats ARB1,2,3 with no win on then it should be there for £70 (unless it's come after the 1st top)
But also these do not need to be redded up, If it's genuinly full then it will go without redding. Granted you feel more comfartable seeing a red board but it's very very rare this goes up top for just 1 unless your lucky to spawn 1 with Extra life or Lucky 7.
Just been 1 of those bastard sessions that happen every now & then.
But also these do not need to be redded up, If it's genuinly full then it will go without redding. Granted you feel more comfartable seeing a red board but it's very very rare this goes up top for just 1 unless your lucky to spawn 1 with Extra life or Lucky 7.
Just been 1 of those bastard sessions that happen every now & then.
betchrider wrote:You go upto a bird and grab her quim and say "im gonna knock the fuck outta this" and see what happens