ARB1, but....No!

MATT99 · Post by **MATT99** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:13 pm

12 nudges, fiver there and all red bar 1 is pure fake reds

ob · Post by ob » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:36 pm

Dunhamzzz wrote:It will ALWAYS go quite red if your on 12 nudges.....

And a £5 win is enough to turn it red anyway.

You can only be 100% confident if its ARB at 1 nudge/no win.

Yep, amazing how many people STILL don't know or understand this, even despite it being mentioned countless times

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:55 am

obviously I wasn't 100 per cent, and I carried on because I was roped in. Mistake I know, but I bet alot of you would have carried on!

anfield road · Post by **anfield road** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:23 am

After a top and its give a £50 etc or £70 (depending on JP value) and stopped redding yet its still goingthrough the £5 block then the machine may have reverted to the £10 block or the £15.

if its going through the block then there is a top still in there as there is no real block on the JP to top gamble.

If its giving NR then its through every blockin nearly every case, some rds chuck it in when they are through every block and proceed to take alot more after to red or give a top.

That is why I never take a top anymore and make it red before doin g so, otherwise if you dont and you get a flat top then theres a chance it can just go back to the first block and in most cases you dont know were you stand.

At lease when you make it red you have a minimum of 2 JPS.

If you understand its the same principle on every red in the country bar the Critical Mass style of machine

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:42 am

If its giving NR then its through every block in nearly every case

Glad you qualified that with

in nearly every case

As there's a bloody annoying combination whereby the best win you can get from NR (no matter how you try it) is £2 or 1 nudge. Granted it's very rare that combo is there, and it mainly comes in on Invincible I think, but still annoying when the other 99% of the time, blue sevens are there.

theoak · Post by **theoak** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:46 am

hmmm; post me the reels for that claim; you can ALWAYS get something good, even if its very difficult to do!

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:50 am

I can't recall exactly the reels off the top of my head*, but it definitely does it! As I said though, chiefly on Invincible (may have been where you get double numbers, too) it's a right arse!!!

*From what I can recall, it's when you can see the Red sevens below the win line by a nudge or two, and the middle reel is on the first Red seven (before the 'fruit' / Red Bar / 'fruit' / Yellow Bar / 'fruit' / Red Seven.
Again, clutching at memory there, but that's about right.

theoak · Post by **theoak** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:57 am

hmm, well if its double numbers, get it up to 6 on the trail then bring down all three at once (with numbers on them)! should max out the nudge trail or get high up at least! someone should write a NR practice programme

...and no, that wont be me!

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:58 am

Matt Vinyl wrote:
If its giving NR then its through every block in nearly every case
Glad you qualified that with

in nearly every case
As there's a bloody annoying combination whereby the best win you can get from NR (no matter how you try it) is £2 or 1 nudge. Granted it's very rare that combo is there, and it mainly comes in on Invincible I think, but still annoying when the other 99% of the time, blue sevens are there.

How does that happen on invincible? is that without double numbers then ?

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:00 am

If its a double number version you can always get to 12 or 16 nudges at least.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:06 am

Guys - off the top of my head, I can't remember fully - but it definitely does do it, be it with double numbers or not, I can't recall. There's defo a setup that will prevent you from bringing in anything better than £2 - I may have been wrong about the number of nudges, but I do know that the number of nudges you can attain still only leaves £2 available.

theoak · Post by **theoak** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:15 am

I contest this absurd claim!!

someone must have a jpg of the red reels or something similar?

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:22 am

LOL!

I'm not going to go out this evening and 'try' to get it...

I want a good £15 at least from a NR, but I'll lay down the fact that there is certainly this combo. Think about the amount of times on something like OAR where you've had twelve nudges and the best win offered has been £2 (or £2 with GMs on to bump you up one space). It's no different to this.

theoak · Post by **theoak** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:25 am

the claim was a number runner leaving you with maximum £2, my claim is that a NR from ANY position can ALWAYS be more than £2, even if it's difficult. If I'm wrong I'll give you the two quid myself

reels please someone!

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:42 am

Heh-heh!

I'll happily be proved wrong, as I'm sure we've all effed up NR on the odd occaision. (Sticky buttons are a key annoyance with this particular bonus!) But I'm still reasonably certain!

Would be interesting to see though. Perhaps we should start a new thread that details various number runner positions and possible results? Or is that getting a bit too anal? (Oo-er!)