Industry person open for questions.

cool · Post by **cool** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:20 pm

you being kicked out of a pub quiz on wholly spurious reasons- now that is interesting! Ive never heard this story even once. I hold my hands up about the LT, I can understand why you are bored rigid from it.

borgcontact4 · Post by **borgcontact4** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:41 pm

Wigwamsun. I hope that you will realise in time that I am an industry person and I am not here to slag it off. Ignorance, lack of knowledge, is rife in our industry as I can imagine also permeates other industries. I am on the site as this next twelve months will prove to be a rather trying time given the state of the business and roosters will come home to roost. I am here only to straighten out misconceptions and mis-information. Not to reveal secrets as quite frankly their aren't any. With a enquiring brain and the internet, is it too much to expect that a quiz game which pays out money is too fiendish to figure the main rational ?

cool · Post by **cool** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:18 pm

I know for a fact that there are people from within the industry on this site and I for one believe that Borg is genuine. I worked for a local authority b4 playing swp's full time and it didnt stop me slagging off them.

dm · Post by dm » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:28 am

borgcontact4 wrote:the law says skill must prevail and if chance, luck is involved then the game would fall under the gaming act!!!!

What law would that be then?

WaterGate · Post by **WaterGate** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:09 am

How do you get your head through pub doorways? That's was I would like to know!

borgcontact4 · Post by **borgcontact4** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:47 am

Dmac07. The law covering SWP is the Prize Competition. If you go to Gambling Commission site and look up prize competitions you will see the definitions. The Gambling Act 2005 which comesd into effect on 1st September 2007 does not cover SWP games. So the law is that which is now in place will not be changed. Skill has to be the determining factor and not luck!!! Not all terminal games follow this, however the Gambling commision have been hampered by the fact they have no powers ...until 1st september.

cool · Post by **cool** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:32 am

I didnt think that the gambling commission determined whether a game is skill based or not, at least I thought that customs & excise implemented the law and determined this. From my dealings with them they are only interested with awp's as they make most money, and as swps no longer pay duty they are not interested in the content of the machines as it would make no difference to the revenue straem of the treasury. They have better things to do with their time.

ZAX · Post by **ZAX** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:25 pm

Borg

Dont think me rude but I would imagine that someone working in the industry would have a better grasp of typing and spelling than you. You dont write the questions by any chance do you?!!!

WaterGate · Post by **WaterGate** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:23 pm

Nice one ZAX. I think his hat fell off on that one when he tried to get through that pub door!

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I don't think the collectors of the duties necessarily dictate the rules of the game. As with most things.

dm · Post by dm » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:41 pm

borgcontact4 wrote:Dmac07. The law covering SWP is the Prize Competition. If you go to Gambling Commission site and look up prize competitions you will see the definitions. The Gambling Act 2005 which comesd into effect on 1st September 2007 does not cover SWP games. So the law is that which is now in place will not be changed. Skill has to be the determining factor and not luck!!! Not all terminal games follow this, however the Gambling commision have been hampered by the fact they have no powers ...until 1st september.

Which law states that " skill must prevail and if chance, luck is involved then the game would fall under the gaming act!!!!"?

It is a cheap shot to go for your spelling...but come on. What job do you do in "the industry"?

dm · Post by dm » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:42 pm

cool wrote:customs & excise

no such animal

borgcontact4 · Post by **borgcontact4** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:12 am

OK Boys funs over!! I dont bother with preview and so typing errors and spelling will be evident. I am games designer and have participated with some top games. Cant say which as this will revela to some my identity.
Gambling Commission have total, or will have shortly, over wether a game is gaming or skill. They and not customs have the say. Then it will have to go to a court of law, then the chit will happen so more than likeley we will see some games withdrawn, by agreement with the industry bods, BACTA ..
Anyone with serious questions?

Terry Tibbs · Post by **Terry Tibbs** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:19 am

borgcontact4 wrote:OK Boys funs over!! I dont bother with preview and so typing errors and spelling will be evident. I am games designer and have participated with some top games. Cant say which as this will revela to some my identity.
Gambling Commission have total, or will have shortly, over wether a game is gaming or skill. They and not customs have the say. Then it will have to go to a court of law, then the chit will happen so more than likeley we will see some games withdrawn, by agreement with the industry bods, BACTA ..
Anyone with serious questions?

moved offices recently?

WaterGate · Post by **WaterGate** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:33 pm

Yes, I have. Why do you think we need the gracing command of your knowledge? I dont believe in something for nothing.

dm · Post by dm » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:54 pm

borgcontact4 wrote:OK Boys funs over!! I dont bother with preview and so typing errors and spelling will be evident. I am games designer and have participated with some top games. Cant say which as this will revela to some my identity.
Gambling Commission have total, or will have shortly, over wether a game is gaming or skill. They and not customs have the say. Then it will have to go to a court of law, then the chit will happen so more than likeley we will see some games withdrawn, by agreement with the industry bods, BACTA ..
Anyone with serious questions?

well it was a serious question. If you genuinely are involved in designing games, and there genuinely are laws which govern such games, you'd think it might be an idea to know which ones they are...