Fruit Machine Chat

golden_game · Post by **golden_game** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:55 pm

i was on a ccp the other day on mega spin , i put 30 ukp into this without a board , what is going on with these ?

toothless11 · Post by **toothless11** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:35 am

It was dead.

Stopnstep · Post by **Stopnstep** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:51 am

Most of the Mega spin series can do this every now and again. It is the same as the £10 - £20 run without a feature on all reds.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:05 am

Yep, pretty much all Reds can do this. I do think that there's two dead 'sessions' though like this:-

1. The really dead session, after someone has had a big result, the first board may well take £20+ and then you'll die without being offered anything, let alone nything worth taking!

2. The calm before the storm dead session, just before a huge top. This usually happens if the machine has been playing well, and you've been sacking off around the £10 mark. The next board you get after this will usually top-out.

Scenario 1 happens on pretty much all Reds (er, as I said above!) but scenario 2 seems to happen more on GADD style machines and Stack Attack.

Of course, the only real way to tell whether you are stuck in scenario 1 or 2 is to get that next board, as keying may be misleading! If it is S1 - pause, take a deep breath, turn away from the machine, and accept your loss!!!

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:21 am

I've put £22 in for a board on a CCP during a period when it was full and showing. had my right hand holding down start [on mega spins] and my left hand feeding in the coins, took about 10 seconds too lose the £22 :x but it did do a £75 top shortly after

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:28 am

Extreme Eddie wrote:I've put £22 in for a board on a CCP during a period when it was full and showing. had my right hand holding down start [on mega spins] and my left hand feeding in the coins, took about 10 seconds too lose the £22 :x but it did do a £75 top shortly after

As per matt above.

now all you wannabee lurkers that read these messages and don't post listen in.

if you wanna win............be prepared to lose.

if you're not prepared to lose, don't play.

Now if anyone wants to buy the pie factiory manip I will sell it for £100, right, i'm off to wash some pots..............................

Nixxy · Post by **Nixxy** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:10 pm

Firefox wrote:Now if anyone wants to buy the pie factiory manip I will sell it for £100, right, i'm off to wash some pots..............................

LOL - bring out the picture!

You'll be getting PMs from LukeStar about that £100 offer y'know

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:15 pm

Heh - good couple of posts there...!

You'll be getting PMs from LukeStar about that £100 offer y'know

Only if he gets around his ban...

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:24 pm

CCP is by far the best M/c thats been released for a long time. I've had around 20 sessions in total on the 2 CCP's round my way and i have not come off it down yet *touches wood*. Even in a dead state i've managed to suck a few quid profit from it. Lowest profit is £9 highest profit is £60.And that's not even playing mega spins!
I had a bloke sharking me on saturday so i hope he didn't learn to much.

Stopnstep · Post by **Stopnstep** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:23 am

[quote="Matt Vinyl"]
Only if he gets around his ban... ]

Thought I hadn't seen him post in a while. Is he actually banned now then?

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:49 am

Yup - he'd gone a bit too far. There are rumours that he's around in another guise, but I do doubt it now...

anfield road · Post by **anfield road** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:21 pm

I have paid £44 for a board on a Top Giza no key on me. Died lower than a 10 for a £4 win.

didnt stay on it as I was just in shock, maybe it had being barred and just lost its head

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:14 pm

emptied a CCP near me today for the 2nd time in 3 weeks, it was 5 off full and offered me blue 7's from fruit steps so i pushed on, fully red Xing from just over £20 in, cost me slightly under £90 for a £70 top, next board 5 out of 5 red X's, that board died, then next pound gave bonus for NR for blue 7's, higher than a 3, lower than a 10 for the top...... now this is where i expected just £35 for about £15 profit, but it went £70 again

i knew straight away i was'nt gonna get paid cause it aint a notey, so left my name and number [again]. luckily it was a different manager and he said he would bell me.

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:00 pm

Pardon my ignorance here, but surely a machine being barred or otherwise tooled doesn't affect the payout percentage?

blackmogu · Post by **blackmogu** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:35 am

Depends on what tool is being used, Cardinal.

Tool Type 1. Passive.
As the title implies, you get free credits. This indeed affects the percentage of the machine, since no money is going in, but the program remembers what is going out. Think original £2 bar/later boomerang.

Tool Type 2. Active.
This genus of tools bypass programs totally and mess with hardware components, like hoppers, hopper connectors, motherboards, solenoids etc. Slottos have been having a hard time because of these (which generally are a piece of wire). These don't affect programs, and related percentages.

Example in hand:- The 'magic wand' tool for s16's barcrest/spectrum clones etc. These machines all had the same hopper in them. The magic wand was designed to emit a pulse of IR light that kept the hopper paying out (this pulse is what is sent from the MB to the hopper to trigger payout in the first place), absent from any prompting from the machines expected source of the IR pulse. Since the designers of fruits thought it prudent for the hopper to have no way of communicating back to the machine what was going on, one can simply sit with the wand up the payout tray, and collect any size bank, and turn on the wand. The hopper will not stop paying out until the pulse is ended. So in effect, a £10 bank becomes a £200 bank, or however much you wish to extract. The machine still waits for the hopper to return a "not busy" signal, and blocks until all activity is stopped. Hence the fruit thinks it's only paid out £10.

You have to wonder if they didn't design it this way on purpose....

These are where the big money is for those who choose this dubious path.

Hope I clarified things a bit.