Red behaviour

milk monitor · Post by **milk monitor** » Thu May 17, 2007 9:28 am

Has anyone else noticed reds tightening up in the last week. I've particularly noticed it with invincible have (four of these) which will block the top for an age/never repeat/ and throwing 5,6,7,8's a lot more than normal.

I have also noticed the same on CCP. It seems like red have brought out a nasty new rechip like they did with life's a beach, making them almost impossible to force.

Has anyone else had similar experiences of late?

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu May 17, 2007 9:48 am

i've said this a while back, had a nasty FNC the other day that kept throwing in 5,6,7,8 for fun whilst on small wins and small nudges, same goes for invicible too, on another note had a £35 invincible gamble lower than a 7 [not lucky 7] the other day for a £70 top completly unexpected

mattrick · Post by **mattrick** » Thu May 17, 2007 12:13 pm

There are more and more players doing what us lot do i think lads

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Thu May 17, 2007 12:32 pm

It's more than likely just coincidental. I hate people blaming a couple of rough experiences on a rechip. They generally only bring out updates with machine errors, not just for the sake of it, and certainly not a chip to give out more mid range numbers (5-9).

Matt

milk monitor · Post by **milk monitor** » Thu May 17, 2007 12:52 pm

Then how can you explain what happened to LAB? that was re-programmed right at the end of it's life.

I believe that they have been altered in order to give more mid range wins, in the last week I have played 10+ invincible on 50p and the game play is so distinctly different it's easy to notice the change. No repeats/ bigger block for the top/poor mid ranged numbers (aimed at getting people non players to collect)

I hope that I am wrong as I was seeing great results prior to this change, but I don't think I am. I suppose time will tell, would like to hear others views...

D4nBO · Post by **D4nBO** » Thu May 17, 2007 2:41 pm

I agree with Matt on this one. You can't expect to get big tops out of every red you play. Think everyone has been there at one time or another where everything blocks goes flat................

Fact is reds can sting and can only do the one top then stop (unless you willing to spend big money chasing the big top). Block for ages for top then only go Flat. You have probably just been unlucky, next time you do them the majoirty may streak.

MrRed · Post by **MrRed** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:43 pm

It's a tough one this
Reds can be a pain at times and we have all been done over
Although i have had some great wins from the £35ers they can be very harsh at times
Not repeating, costing loads for the first top when clearly ready
I think we are all that familiar with £25 reds that these £35's can catch you out
Passing £5 on these not always means its there
The 50p Mega Spin wons are the best and worst
Great because they are fast and easy but they throw £7/£10 in when not ready
Not being able to key the new ones also means its harder to tell
If you get one top it could be the end of streak
It's happened to me on a LD
Gone flat on the top and been showing next board and not been there and i got 'done' for £50
I still love them though and they are great for profit
Forcing from the right point usually pays off
Read the board wrong and you will get stung
General advice really

MrRed · Post by **MrRed** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:45 pm

Just to point out i will force from passing £5 but i have been done few times for quite a bit
Usually its fine though

LukeStar · Post by **LukeStar** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:55 pm

lol @ forcing when past £5 block . You get batty boards that go past block but arent doing nothing .

6+ REDS FOR ME

AND IF IT LANDS ON CERTAIN RED FEATURES ITS REDDING

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:06 pm

6+ reds? Lucky Devil can sometimes give all blue boards when its £15 ready.....guess you don't force many of these then! :P

LukeStar · Post by **LukeStar** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:11 pm

i force lucky devils on 5 showing .

Martal~Wombat · Post by **Martal~Wombat** » Sat May 19, 2007 11:26 pm

....the 35ers can do '50' rolls so b ready
2 collect a 15 after a top, dont fall in2 the
'another force' trap....

LukeStar · Post by **LukeStar** » Sat May 19, 2007 11:49 pm

lol @ you lot think you go for tops when its redding on 35ers . Collect £35's and £25's .

ob · Post by ob » Sun May 20, 2007 1:21 pm

you cant just go for ones that are redding to start... u'll hardly end up playing much at all - I find these 35's VERY VERY rarely are red to start - apart from GADD/CCP which are more often there..

problem MrRed with playing them when they win £5-7 - this is not a sign of whether they are soon ready to red so much as a sign the machine has a bit of "board value" - like after a streak it sometimes gives a toggle for a tenner etc. - imagine it just did £70 the previous day and then it got refilled - going past £5 so you'd go for it and an inevitable £40ish loss! Although to be fair, I'd certainly consider it a reasonable sign if it is winning this - you have to remember it can often be costly to see if this is blocking too!

Lukestar, had so many £70 tops, why would you want to collect £35/25, mayaswell get it all done in one go; its not like the top is overly blocked if redding

MrRed · Post by **MrRed** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:50 pm

Yeah that was what i was saying ob
If you only play ones that are redding then you wont be playing much
You have to take them on sometimes if going over the £5
Of course there are times when it will be a loss
CCP etc are different yes