Totally agree Grecian.
Long gone are the day's when you could just walk in - help yourself to chips - have a go on the barmaid - pot the quizzer then p*ss off with out even nodding to the landlord.
Listen lads this is the 90's so buy a feckin drink - your SWPy skills should easily recoup that!
Not buying a drink
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Any money or weight that I might save from not having a drink in Spoons is written off by the burger lunches that I get there.
There's probably some group psychological reason why people who play the machine without having a drink might be offensive (to landlord and customers). What with the drink being the obligatory entrance ticket to the social community of the pub (the first thing that you do when you come in is buy one) the non-drinking quizzer might be seen as dismissive of others in the pub.
This offense is lesser in a pub like Spoons, as the sense of community is weaker.
Through buying a pint and entering the community of drinkers in the pub, you are more likely to lead them to identify with you when you win money, rather than resent you.
There's probably some group psychological reason why people who play the machine without having a drink might be offensive (to landlord and customers). What with the drink being the obligatory entrance ticket to the social community of the pub (the first thing that you do when you come in is buy one) the non-drinking quizzer might be seen as dismissive of others in the pub.
This offense is lesser in a pub like Spoons, as the sense of community is weaker.
Through buying a pint and entering the community of drinkers in the pub, you are more likely to lead them to identify with you when you win money, rather than resent you.
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Cardinal Sin
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Eh?step7 wrote:That sounds just like Mr. Logic, as I remember he was always getting booted out of the pub too (usually with a good kicking)The point I was making was that buying a drink that I do not really want is an operational prop not a moral imperative. If it is not necessary it is a waste of money.
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1. Start here:step7 wrote:
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The point I was making was that buying a drink that I do not really want is an operational prop not a moral imperative. If it is not necessary it is a waste of money.
That sounds just like Mr. Logic, as I remember he was always getting booted out of the pub too (usually with a good kicking)
Eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Logic
2. Buy every Viz back-issue/annual you can and get some humour into yourself!
1. What has that got to do with the price of fish?step7 wrote:1. Start here:step7 wrote:
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The point I was making was that buying a drink that I do not really want is an operational prop not a moral imperative. If it is not necessary it is a waste of money.
That sounds just like Mr. Logic, as I remember he was always getting booted out of the pub too (usually with a good kicking)
Eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Logic
2. Buy every Viz back-issue/annual you can and get some humour into yourself!
2. Dont get this new fangled humour. More sort of Bernard Manning myself
I did used to be in the trade, but that's not the point.quizard wrote: Bleeding Hell. You are not a pub manager are you?
I didn’t realise that pub landlords were being so altruistic in providing a selection of fixed pseudo skill games at the small cost of 50p a go (and keeping 70% to 80% of the money).
do you think the pub landlord gets the 70% the machine keeps? the 35p 'profit' a game make is spread EXTREMELY thinly between game developers, licenses, distributors, hardwear manufacturers, breweries and the pub itself. they aren't designed for anyone to make a living from. they are there to provide short bursts of entertainment for pub customers and provide very little income for the pub.
people who are intellegent enough to make a living from SWPs are also intellegent enough to make a far better living in other ways. it's beyond me why anyone would want to try and do it proffessionally.
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Rougebooze
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I like a quiz machine more than the next man, but, Jesus wept...doesn't the beer take priority on pub visits?
If i've got an hour or so to kill betweeen trains, pre-meeting mates or just on a mooch then a bit of cash divided between the bar the quizzer and the (increasingly seldom) jukebox is fantastic but surely diet-cokes and dodging psychotic landlords is detracting from whatever enjoyment DOND at 18000 points or all the 'Add Cheats' Pub Quiz has to offer?
Maybe i'm just not focused enough.
If i've got an hour or so to kill betweeen trains, pre-meeting mates or just on a mooch then a bit of cash divided between the bar the quizzer and the (increasingly seldom) jukebox is fantastic but surely diet-cokes and dodging psychotic landlords is detracting from whatever enjoyment DOND at 18000 points or all the 'Add Cheats' Pub Quiz has to offer?
Maybe i'm just not focused enough.
poker pete should stick to poker. I have been told by several people including engineers , that Leisure Link and Gamestec that the machines operate on a 50/50 basis.The independents may operate differently. The games developers and the machine manufacturers have never had any problem with me doing what I do. Occasionally I will contact them about bugs and flaws as well as what I think of their games. They develop the ideas, manufacture the machines , place them and service them. The pub landlord has no input into the process at all , what does he/she deserve. There is no other singularly profit orientated trade than the pub trade (except farmers). No matter what subject raised (anti-smoking / anti-glass bans / anti-duty free and supermarkets / anti quiz pros)they always bleat on about doing it in the interests of their customers.We know its only done for them , their pockets and their ignorance.If they can run a pub they should be able to make more in a different trade! Everybody is entitled to make a profit and living without harrassment-fairly.