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I get a lot more wrong than I should partly because there are a lot of different games to play unlike the good old days of standalones but also because on most games if you blow it nr the jackpot the machine doesnt suddenly become unobtainable through recognising how close you came to winning it.
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tonkarentino wrote:We are of like mind. The question remains though. "Do you think Suri etc. are any different?"
Are they recognisably different in some measurable, scientific sense? Possibly, although my guess would be No. Of course we all have different innate levels of ability in all the areas that are tested when playing quiz games but the only behaviour I have ever seen/heard of while playing machines that might classify as different in that sense is the description of the guy who can play Spot the Difference by 'knowing' where the differences are, and I can only take that description at face value, never having witnessed it as first hand. This sounds like something that couldn't be taught by someone else experienced in that skill, or developed by hard work and repeated practice. It's like that description of mathematical genius in Good Will Hunting:

Will: Beethoven, okay. He looked at a piano, and it just made sense to him. He could just play.
Skylar: So what are you saying? You play the piano?
Will: No, not a lick. I mean, I look at a piano, I see a bunch of keys, three pedals, and a box of wood. But Beethoven, Mozart, they saw it, they could just play. I couldn't paint you a picture, I probably can't hit the ball out of Fenway, and I can't play the piano.
Skylar: But you can do my o-chem paper in under an hour.
Will: Right. Well, I mean when it came to stuff like that... I could always just play.


I'd say that answering lots of quiz questions quickly and accurately, on the other hand, is a skill that can be learned and improved. This isn't to say of course that everyone can reach the same level - as I said, we all start with different abilities in terms of memory, speed of reading and recall and so on - but as with so much in life it's the hard work you put in that bears the most fruit. That, and the ability to identify which games to play and, crucially, which games NOT to play, and the discipline to stick to that list.

To finish with another quote (one I've used on here before)]"Yeah, but you know sir, the harder I practise, the luckier I get."[/i]
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Nil Satis wrote:
tonkarentino wrote:We are of like mind. The question remains though. "Do you think Suri etc. are any different?"
Are they recognisably different in some measurable, scientific sense? Possibly, although my guess would be No. Of course we all have different innate levels of ability in all the areas that are tested when playing quiz games but the only behaviour I have ever seen/heard of while playing machines that might classify as different in that sense is the description of the guy who can play Spot the Difference by 'knowing' where the differences are, and I can only take that description at face value, never having witnessed it as first hand. This sounds like something that couldn't be taught by someone else experienced in that skill, or developed by hard work and repeated practice. It's like that description of mathematical genius in Good Will Hunting:

Will: Beethoven, okay. He looked at a piano, and it just made sense to him. He could just play.
Skylar: So what are you saying? You play the piano?
Will: No, not a lick. I mean, I look at a piano, I see a bunch of keys, three pedals, and a box of wood. But Beethoven, Mozart, they saw it, they could just play. I couldn't paint you a picture, I probably can't hit the ball out of Fenway, and I can't play the piano.
Skylar: But you can do my o-chem paper in under an hour.
Will: Right. Well, I mean when it came to stuff like that... I could always just play.


I'd say that answering lots of quiz questions quickly and accurately, on the other hand, is a skill that can be learned and improved. This isn't to say of course that everyone can reach the same level - as I said, we all start with different abilities in terms of memory, speed of reading and recall and so on - but as with so much in life it's the hard work you put in that bears the most fruit. That, and the ability to identify which games to play and, crucially, which games NOT to play, and the discipline to stick to that list.

To finish with another quote (one I've used on here before)]"Yeah, but you know sir, the harder I practise, the luckier I get."[/i]
I'll take it as a "No" then!
That is , quite honestly, the most incredible answer I've received to ANY post I've made on the 6 or so sites I post on regularly.

:D :D :D
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Yes I'll second that, I enjoyed the quotes and I know I come across as a bit tongue in cheek and sardonic at times, but fair play to the guy for having that level of skill.
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tonkarentino wrote:I'll take it as a "No" then!
That is , quite honestly, the most incredible answer I've received to ANY post I've made on the 6 or so sites I post on regularly.

:D :D :D
My fingers were sore after typing that but I guess I do find it hard just to say 'No'...

:wink:

The golf quote, by the way, is just something that I always seem to recall when being accused for the 100th time of cheating, having a system, being lucky, having written the game I'm playing etc.
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Nil Satis wrote:
tonkarentino wrote:I'll take it as a "No" then!
That is , quite honestly, the most incredible answer I've received to ANY post I've made on the 6 or so sites I post on regularly.

:D :D :D
My fingers were sore after typing that but I guess I do find it hard just to say 'No'...

:wink:

The golf quote, by the way, is just something that I always seem to recall when being accused for the 100th time of cheating, having a system, being lucky, having written the game I'm playing etc.
Fair play to you fella!!
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cool wrote:
the joy of learning. The joy of knowledge isn't just in the having; it's how you acquire it.

'spot on Cool. was that catullus?'

I dont know but in a similar vein Tarrasch (chess GM early 20thc) said
'the beauty of a chess move lies not in its appearance,but in the thought behind it'.
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grecian wrote: the amount of times I get questions wrong that I've seen many times before is pathetic, really. I doubt Suri, or for that matter any of his "top boy" rivals, would do that.
one of my shortcomings is (still) not knowing how many bottles there are in a methuselah/rehoboam etc. i realise that knowing things like this is pretty fundamental to quizzing (and specifically SWP japseye) so it has prompted me to write the list on the back of my business card just now. probably would be simpler to commit it to memory or devise a mnemonic but then i'd need one for Monarchs, masters of the King's music, poets laureate, oscar winners...
i'm also embarrassingly poor on national capitals, this is unforgivable.
nobody ever wins on those things.
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I bet you know more than you think you do...

Sana'a ?
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My Judy Really Makes Splendid Belching Noises

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Jeroboam
Rehoboam
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May Just Really Make Some Big... Hmm, a 'prize / win /cash' word beginning with N? :)
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Cardinal Sin wrote:I bet you know more than you think you do...

Sana'a ?
sounds like somewhere like fiji or tonga. please tell me it is not yemen.
nobody ever wins on those things.
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sorry but i shall not be telling you :lol:
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Playing an open black in some absolute shithole in newbury today and on WU
scoreboard there was an entry suri is king- don't know if this was the man himself or a tribute.
Needless to say the unit was hammered. Also a few hyenas on the scorecard- will this man
ever get a clearance- he even plays WU badly in my local in SE london
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Northern Monkey wrote:Also a few hyenas on the scorecard- will this man ever get a clearance
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