tptp locked? and whats the hopper size

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:59 pm

but have u done one ist?? I love playing royales...

I do feel bad for you quiz folk, your money makers being empty etc must be super dooper annoying..

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:19 pm

mark a coin and play slower

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:22 pm

I imagine its annoying for quiz players finding their units empty, fruiters no doubt get a similar feeling when their dials etc have been stolen from by toolers. Cash Stacka is something I really revel in doing, its a game of skill, and therefore should draw praise rather than disapproval. I feel no heat when hitting the 50. TPTP however is alittle bit naughty, but its there to be exploited, although the inevitable attention is entirely understandable. Casino Royale worried me when it came out, because I thought the scam would wipe a really enjoyable and profitable game off the face of the earth.

Not so, and indeed as Blackcurrant pointed out, the updated software makes the game happy, which is a massive bonus for those who have taken time and effort to master the game. "a friend in the industry" is going round, CD laden, tomorrow to update units. I'm still trying to do a deal regarding where he is going....
One big plus is that the slightly more complex trick on c4 has been prolonged because of other shenanigans, although most inde units now crash. Iam aware the trick is fairly widespread now, but the method i'm using is still fairly exclusive, because anyone i've told has kept it quiet, and the ability to keep things quiet goes a long way with me.

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:25 pm

no Crosby, i am not good enough at these games to win on them.
good luck to anyone who is winning on casino royale or cash stacker by having a necessarily high level of the required skill. it is not quite what we are used to on SWP so a few of us are a bit miffed. but, given that GWHL is now the chip leader, perhaps they can afford to play a few hands irresponsibly to get a read on their opponent. or perhaps they have made a monumental cock-up. would probably be quite interesting to go to companies house and see the accounts of these operators.

silent g · Post by **silent g** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:44 pm

grecian wrote: How long did it take you to win £122?

took 4 hours when footie was on as i was watching and playing lol.

i do them in less than a hour now just reject 30 - 40 games then when £6 comes to level 6 and starts with a boost i accept all use boosts first.
then collect £1 in casino blah blah blah.

Blackcurrantsoda · Post by **Blackcurrantsoda** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:16 am

Most units that have working tptp also have stacker on, get good at that and and each pub requires a 10 min visit. As McStreak said, it's not on top, most folk in the pubs that see you do it are amazed or exclaim "F*cking hell fair play to you mate!" Just fot the record most note lock outs are when 30 quid is left in the machine.

QuizMaster · Post by **QuizMaster** » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:42 am

In my opinion, all machines are fair game as long as illegal methods are not in employ i.e. tools.

I bear no grudge against the AWP boys since many is the time I have crossed over the fence as it were to fill my boots on AWP when there have been particularly easy pickings, before settling back to the day job of the SWP grind. It is just recently that it has been less of a grind than usual, as no doubt you are all aware by now.

cool · Post by **cool** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:32 am

'Just fot the record most note lock outs are when 30 quid is left in the machine'.useful information . thanks.
a machine with a bug is fair game---as long as u didnt put it there.
a friend of mine played on a roulette machine in a casino linked to a
table. He noticed a tiny delay in placing last bets.He spent an evening honing his placement techniques and losing several hundred pounds.Once perfected he took the casino for almost £10k before they realised what was going on.They did not bar him from presumably a grudging respect & also the fact he's a compulsive gambler and would give most of it back. This is a true story as the bloke is a very good friend of mine, not a chinese whisper or apocryphal tale!

darren · Post by **darren** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:48 am

If the company is idiotic enough to let such a flaw go through testing then in my opinion they deserve what they get. Sorry, im not turning down free money.

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:28 pm

Personally i'm all for banking them up. They don't have the grounds not to pay you, so why not run them up for a couple of hundred? Someone I know threatened small claims court over a £110 bank, and got paid, albeit begrudgingly. I'll be happily banking any I see, not doing so is a wasted opportunity IMO.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:34 pm

I've turned a few off just to clear the IOU on the ones i've taken too much from, surely if the same name keeps cropping up it looks suspect? even though you aint done nothing wrong i've never tried to claim one, i'm still waiting for £40 from a spoons Paragon from last October, they even gave me a receipt, may as well bin it.

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:14 pm

Never bin them mate, i've never failed to get a claim, even from the most unlikely of places. I remember banking money laundrys in some services, it took 5 weeks, but once i'd threatened them with civil action they couldn't pay quick enough.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:17 pm

I think the problem is 1) its Lamestec, and 2) the divvy bird insisted turning it off which cleared the bank, so wheres the proof? i rang several times and even went there to speak in person, all you get is there looking into it

cool · Post by **cool** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:20 pm

'They don't have the grounds not to pay you, so why not run them up for a couple of hundred? Someone I know threatened small claims court over a £110 bank, and got paid, albeit begrudgingly'

I believe legally (although I cant quote you the specific part of the legislation) that the money you have won isnt yours until it has come of the machine. The threatenned Ill take you to the small claims court shouldnt have any publican quaking in their boots.Whether you build your credits up to £500+ by the Brewis method or by exploiting the weakness in progamming if I was a publican I would tell either to **** off. I'm not saying that I wouldnt exploit the system(although my opinions of multiple wins is well documented) but for somebody to drain the machine through minimal skill and then asking the publican for £100 the machine hasnt paid out is really taking the piss. I play swp machines to make money & have enjoyment whilst doing it.I always look at the long term not short termism although I do commiserate with those who haven't my skills & insight! (however hats off to the person who found the flaw-genius!)

cp999 · Post by **cp999** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:00 pm

cool wrote: I believe legally (although I cant quote you the specific part of the legislation) that the money you have won isnt yours until it has come of the machine.

That was also my understanding of the situation.

cool wrote: I play swp machines to make money & have enjoyment whilst doing it.I always look at the long term not short termism although I do commiserate with those who haven't my skills & insight!

In fairness the games being exploited are a) disappearing very rapidly b) in general being done by people who are not going to be especially interested in the terminal once the games in question have gone, so there is validity in a short-termist approach.