caesar's palace

foxy · Post by **foxy** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:48 am

sorry this is a bit random but i haven't played caesers palace much but today i got 6 keys for the first time. i only had 3 boxes left but ran out of bonii so question is would it have jackpotted? crucial info i believe - gamesnet reasonably old menu.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:35 am

foxy wrote:sorry this is a bit random but i haven't played caesers palace much but today i got 6 keys for the first time. i only had 3 boxes left but ran out of bonii so question is would it have jackpotted? crucial info i believe - gamesnet reasonably old menu.

Almost certainly yes.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:59 am

Nil Satis wrote: It might have done but on the whole 6 keys (for a £10 prize in the end game) is the de facto Jackpot on Caesar's Palace on both the Gamesnets and ItBoxes and you may indeed only get 5 keys in the whole pyramid - this is particularly true on the dreaded Paragons.

I'd have to disagree on that: in my experience £20 is the de facto (and de jure) CP JP on a newly-installed GamesNet. Certainly £20 was available at nearly all of them round here when CP was newly out, although I'd expect it's long gone at most venues now. That said, I'd be quite prepared to believe that at some busier venues, the game has recharged and will now offer five or six keys, which may be what NS is referring to. By contrast I'm fairly sure £5 is the de facto CP JP on a newly-installed ItBox. It only starts offering six keys once it's had a bit of money through it, and seven keys is a real rarity on the ItBox. It's the same (i.e. five keys only moving to six once a bit of cash has been put in it) on the Paragon.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:13 am

Yeah, i've cleared a whole grid only to be offered 4/5 keys before. Pretty annoying really, and there is no point gambling the end game as its rigged beyond belief.

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:24 am

recently i saw a couple of builders playing CP. they were doing pretty well but once they got to the third tier from the top of the maingame, they used the keys to get into caesar's palace.

they seemed quite happy to keep gambling on the endgame in the blind hope of getting to the top. when the penny drops that they can save the keys (and fish for them once the top is unlocked), they will enter on £2 and, one would assume, gamble on from there.

isolated incident i know but these two didn't play any other game (it was a paragon) for the time it took me to have two pints. so it must be getting some throughput. did i go in the following day and get a free tenner? yes, but not before twice crapping out on the simple simon game.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:42 am

Not sure I understand Isty - surely they would need to have got to the top of the maingame pyramid (with or without keys) to reach the endgame? Or am I missing something and can you use keys to get you up to the top quickly in the maingame? If so, I'm a tool.

I agree it gets throughput; I've taken a couple of decent prizes from a fair few machines round here. To be fair I think if it was placed prominently on machines it would get lots of play: it's got a good mix of stuff on it and is fun to play in a group.

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:52 am

i'm afraid Grecian, by your own formula, you are a tool

you can skip a level with a key in the maingame if you want to. although there would be no good reason to do so.

iirc, this was the bottom-middle game on this particular machine's front menu, have seen quite a few paragons where it is on the front page which clearly helps the amount of plays it gets. not really in a position to comment about gamesnets though.

agreed that it is always worth a punt although long sums bother me and i often get the simple simon wrong.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:26 pm

I'm a bit partial to a few goes on this and have seen it played quite a lot by others, too. The main gamble is how far you press on to find remaining keys when you have access to the end game. I've had 4 or 5 before and then the 20+ coin snake or 3x6x8x9=? 'spoiler' shows up - ruining that particular foray.

Have seen someone 'filming' the coins on their phone and using the calculator for the sums. So, I suppose if you had the speed (and indeed could be bothered) then so long as you didn't stumble on a question, you could 'always' find all the keys?*

*This assumes that clearing the main game always reveals the total number of keys required to reach the top of the end game?

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:34 pm

But of course we know that it doesn't always show the number of keys required to reach the top of the endgame (i.e. seven keys). I'd be interested to know whether there is a minimum number of keys always present - I think it always shows at least one, even when it's in really tough mode it'll usually give you a key after you've reached the top of the maingame pyramid. But if a perfect player played on would he find some more? I don't know.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:58 pm

Grecian: Hence my qualifier:

*This assumes that clearing the main game always reveals the total number of keys required to reach the top of the end game?

I'd hazard a guess that the keys are 'not' always there, else using the methods I witnessed, with a bit of knowledge added, the player could always top out the end-game?

cp999 · Post by **cp999** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:05 pm

Pretty certain I've reached the endgame, having cleared the screen, with only 4 keys. Not that I make a habit of playing it; there's better stuff out there.

rogerthymes · Post by **rogerthymes** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:04 pm

Made plenty of CP jackpots on gamesnets. Twice on an itbox, never on a paragon - only a fiver...which is the usual for an itbox. I

Caesar's Palace!

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:32 pm

rogerthymes wrote:Made plenty of CP jackpots on gamesnets. Twice on an itbox, never on a paragon - only a fiver...which is the usual for an itbox. I *heart* Caesar's Palace!

A 20JP on CP on the Paragon is possible, but is a rarity. Obviously, it needs some reasonable dollar to have gone through the machine beforehand.

rogerthymes · Post by **rogerthymes** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:50 pm

grecian wrote:
rogerthymes wrote:Made plenty of CP jackpots on gamesnets. Twice on an itbox, never on a paragon - only a fiver...which is the usual for an itbox. I *heart* Caesar's Palace!
A 20JP on CP on the Paragon is possible, but is a rarity. Obviously, it needs some reasonable dollar to have gone through the machine beforehand.

Maybe - I've gone through all the boxes on the pyramid a couple of times on Paragon and been stuck with the five boxes. I'm normally happy to take the fiver rather than be hit with an impossible sequence of fifteen coins...

Another topic on the same game - how many differnt ways can people here can predict the whole layout from the bottom line's results? (If that makes any sense?) Two for me.