Risk

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:35 pm

Was playing this at lunchtime on a local Ind:e, for no good reason.

Oddly, it gave me two double prizes in the course of one game, such that had I reached the fourth prize I'd have won £40 rather than £20. (In fact, I only managed to get as far as the second prize, but that will still won me a pleasing £8.)

This was rather odd, as the front of the game clearly advertises a £20 maximum prize. Has anyone seen this before? Has anyone managed to win £40 on a game of Risk before? (Best I've done is reaching the third prize, so £10.) Are there any other examples of games awarding a higher prize than advertised? If I'd won the £40, presumably the Ind:e would have auto-removed Risk from its menu.

QuizMaster · Post by **QuizMaster** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:49 pm

I've had £13 out of a Pub Quiz, and that says £10 Jackpot

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:58 pm

QuizMaster wrote:I've had £13 out of a Pub Quiz, and that says £10 Jackpot

Good work QM. £3 beermat prize and £10JP?

QuizMaster · Post by **QuizMaster** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:03 pm

Yes indeed. I've never had more than £20 out of a Risk though.

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:41 pm

off topic but i enjoy the British grenadiers music on risk

Nil Satis · Post by **Nil Satis** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:51 pm

As I think I've mentioned earlier, the Goldenballs game has to fiddle things to ensure that you can't win more than £20, in that you can be given say £20, £10 and £5 as your first three balls on the final game which simply means the next ball will be a Killer to reduce the prize to £3.50 and then you'll get a prize that ends in 50p as your final ball. Having played this one quite a lot I feel pretty sure in stating that the end game is completely rigged, in that you always end up with a win in whole pounds and it seems the maximum prize you are likely to see in 95% of cases is £5.

Similarly on the Jiggy Bank game the Double or Nothing end game is capped at £50 so if you win any more than £25 it isn't really a Double or Nothing chance.

The old JPM Cluedo would I think reduce the Jackpot to £15 if you had already won the £5 prize for all six suspects, although I only ever had that combination of events once or twice.

On Every Loser Wins you could in theory take a £3 spot prize and then carry on to the £10 main prize but I suspect that is one of the many games that doesn't actually advertise a Jackpot as such.

Back (finally

) to the original topic, your mention of Risk made me come over all nostalgic for the old standalone game. Did someone mention on here that they know of one of these still surviving in the wild or did I dream that? You can PM me if you'd like - it really only would be for old times' sake!

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:25 pm

Nil Satis wrote: The old JPM Cluedo would I think reduce the Jackpot to £15 if you had already won the £5 prize for all six suspects, although I only ever had that combination of events once or twice.

Is that right? Wow, I certainly never had that combination of events, but then I was a callow youth at the time.

I will PM you a possible Risk location NS - but it is a couple of years old now.

donttellhimpike · Post by **donttellhimpike** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:59 am

You have reminded me how i missed the rare £40 a couple of years back by one question.

thanks!!

pike

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Wed May 07, 2008 2:05 pm

Can report I've now managed to take a £20 out of Risk: for the first time ever I completed four rounds and came across a double prizes along the way...

wires74 · Post by **wires74** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:41 pm

must be plenty of old stuff around where u play have not seen one in the wild for a long time

Nil Satis · Post by **Nil Satis** » Wed May 07, 2008 7:09 pm

Just to clarify, I'm pretty sure grecian is talking about the 'new' Risk, i.e. the one that has been on various multi-game cabinets for a year or two, rather than the original standalone game that, as the forum's official Grumpy Old Man I am honour-bound to say, was far superior...

Properpro · Post by **Properpro** » Wed May 07, 2008 9:20 pm

Nil Satis wrote:Just to clarify, I'm pretty sure grecian is talking about the 'new' Risk, i.e. the one that has been on various multi-game cabinets for a year or two, rather than the original standalone game that, as the forum's official Grumpy Old Man I am honour-bound to say, was far superior...

I presume the wink acknowledges how easy it was to empty!

Money went in, another game where it all came out.

cp999 · Post by **cp999** » Wed May 07, 2008 11:37 pm

Properpro wrote:
Nil Satis wrote:Just to clarify, I'm pretty sure grecian is talking about the 'new' Risk, i.e. the one that has been on various multi-game cabinets for a year or two, rather than the original standalone game that, as the forum's official Grumpy Old Man I am honour-bound to say, was far superior...

I presume the wink acknowledges how easy it was to empty!

Money went in, another game where it all came out.

£20 for clearing all the territories, iirc. Easy once you sussed it, though original program Aladdin's Cave was faster.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:14 am

Yes, just to clarify, I'm talking about the more modern version of Risk to be found on Ind:e machines, with four separate prize levels - haven't seen an old Maygay standalone Risk for a long long while.

Nil Satis · Post by **Nil Satis** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:52 am

Properpro wrote:I presume the wink acknowledges how easy it was to empty!

It was actually more to do with my self-appointed role as the board's Grumpy Old Man - I realise I am sometimes almost parodying myself but on the subject of remakes of earlier games I feel confident in asserting that 90% of the remakes are inferior in terms of just about the only issue I judge any game on, namely whether or not it will offer decent prizes consistently.

A few examples:

Battleships - Version 1 great, would often pay substantial prizes, Version 2 and particularly 3 just rank, with £1 often a substantial achievement. The other Battleships game, as seen mainly on Paragons, is even worse with its fake skill element at the end

(there was also the other version which appeared on Gameboxes with the two pirate characters]Risk[/b] - the original one always provided a good game and often decent prizes, whereas the new one is another where winning £1 or £2 means you've done well (grecian excepted it seems!)

Monopoly - all the variants have been a continued progression towards pretty pictures and sounds and away from consistent payouts; I'd actually say that the current version is the single most impressive game I've seen judged on the quality of the pictures etc but those things just don't matter to me

Cluedo - the original could give you long games where it was clear the higher prizes were never going to be available but you always had a good chance at the Bonus Suspects, whereas the current one just offers long games where it is clear the higher prizes aren't available, or alternatively just a few quick spoilers to kill you off

Trivial Pursuit - at least two earlier versions, with the one that still appears on some Paragons always worth a look, whereas the new one that has appeared on the Paragons is just another "nothing" game that will quickly disappear

The one slight exception is Millionaire, where the original is still to this day one of the top quiz games I've ever played, particularly the £40 JP standalone and similar variants, hence the abomination that was the 2006 reissue was a real shocker. They have however recovered somewhat with the 2008 'Celebrity' version which does give you a decent chance on the £1 variant at least

There - I should have managed to insult just about everybody's favourite game in that little lot!