on a roll

[toby]

Few too many paranoid people on here. As said the way to force a red is plastered over numerous forums. The amount of people willing to risk a serious amount of money into a fruit machine loaded only with a bit of info off the internet that they don't know wether to believe or not are a very minority. The second they read "You need £100 + float" it's goodnight from them.
They'll be stood in a pub and spot a red. somebody is playing it and it's redding. They get to go on it but off £10 they only get 1 or 2 boards that are only gambling to the £7/£10. They think it's all bollocks this and start collecting like they normally would.
Would be Red player no longer.
You see you have to be an Addict/Serious Gambler to put over £20 into a fruit machine. A player is knowing what m\c's are worth putting £20 into.
A casual player (Munter) wants to put £3 in a machine & win the lottery

very well put!!!

Toby

[uber-pro]

I hope he is in my area Toby! All the local idiots need more competition on the reds, and hopefully I'll finally kill them all off.

I hardly bother with reds nowadays (appart from hidden away ones) to be honest as they are permenantly dead around here. So the times when I do play them, I'm certainly not expecting many of them to be ready anyway. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the country is in the same state too. The boat has well and truely been missed for anyone trying to get in on them now.

Keeping things quiet is of course important but how to push a red gaming isn't one of those things anymore. If they are your main source of income in this game, I feel very sorry for you as it must be torture, unless your in the middle of no-where.

And Gaz's post was also spot on.

just my opinion.

[flashback]

Maybe uber-pro is just a nice chap that didn't want to see someone do their bollocks as a result of you guys deliberately posting misinformation. If you don't want to help someone then simply don't post - simple as that.

[YoungKai]

heh heh, there is alot of basic information divulged on this site but, there are only 2,800ish people who can read them. this compared to the the hundreds of thousand of machines on the country, means $$$.

having said that some fool came up to me this eve and told me that GUAC 'could' give jackpot. damn wiseguy

[Dunhamzzz]

Few too many paranoid people on here. As said the way to force a red is plastered over numerous forums. The amount of people willing to risk a serious amount of money into a fruit machine loaded only with a bit of info off the internet that they don't know wether to believe or not are a very minority. The second they read "You need £100 + float" it's goodnight from them.
They'll be stood in a pub and spot a red. somebody is playing it and it's redding. They get to go on it but off £10 they only get 1 or 2 boards that are only gambling to the £7/£10. They think it's all bollocks this and start collecting like they normally would.
Would be Red player no longer.
You see you have to be an Addict/Serious Gambler to put over £20 into a fruit machine. A player is knowing what m\c's are worth putting £20 into.
A casual player (Munter) wants to put £3 in a machine & win the lottery

very well put!!!

Toby

Still results in a Dead machine though No? ITs jsut encouraging people to play. I cant believe that post about. Just stupid.

[anfield road]

Well if its red and someone who has read this thread thinks ah its ready for two JPs I will force and gets lucky and gets the repeat its flat! or he takesa few £5 - £15 wins or a few red features then bang its back to AGB1 and its going to need £25 - £40 to go red again.

But if he did not get told about this he may not play it and leave it red?

basically with whats left now nobody should be speaking on the forum about how to play bandits.

I speak to a select few on here who get info but thats all done via phone and PM!

Keep it schtum i say

[pickareel]

indeed have some bloody respect for people who actually play for a living!!!

[INVINCIBLE]

indeed have some bloody respect for people who actually play for a living!!!

i agree 100%

[uber-pro]

Ah well.

I tried to be sensible.

Now your replies are just funny.

Might post a full write up for reds shortly just to wind you up.

Its the bloody internet, and the people who are annoyed at me have probably learned the majority of there stuff about machines off the net too!!

This is also a fruit machine forum where people are supposed to swap questions and answers. If your seriously concerned about whats posted on the net about machines then you either DONT play for a living, or you haven't done so properly for any length of time and as such have no real experince, or your losing fortunes because your an addict and want to protect your mininalistic respite. No real player gives a toss about old info thats posted on the net because its edging on worthless and, even if it isn't, you cant do anything to stop it.

Either way, get over it. How to force a red is far from secret nowadays.

Now if I was to explain why everyones local carribean cash is getting harder and harder to win some quick beer money off on a public forum then I would be annoyed at me..................

And before the smart arse comments I'm not even gonna hint about the decent stuff just now.

[pickareel]

no what annoys me i was in pub doing a hit and owner sits by me n starts quizzing me about the deal or no deal emptys that he actually got off this site,some things are best kept quiet understand?this sight has no effect on how i play fruits or what i know about fruits or how i get info on fruits

[JG]

I think they've just turned the % down on the Carrie Bean Cash. That's why it plays worse. It's a nationwide thing. Apparently there was an emptier for the original QPS CC, so based on the sound principle that fruit machines of the same name will have emptiers (This theory works. Deal or no deal.) on 'em then there are emptiers for Carribean Cash, Hall O'Phame, Big Teds and the non conformist chair. Also not forgetting to mention the perambulation of well healedishness.

There are emptiers (legal) for everything. You just got to know them. I know nothing. My opinions on all this are as follows. If you're saying something a bit sensitive. Mix up the words so it becomes a bit confusing. Instead of saying "Keep taking turbo cash on the free board" say "Sheep raking rapid petrol compression monies on the y'know" Everyone who needs to know, knows and everyone who deosn't woesn't.

All red bar one can be Christmas trees in all sectors apart from that one over there. Just be imaginative. Vince topper. Empty beards. Mix it up with some check raises, bloops and standard plays and that is the way to play. I only come on here for The Nudgeman stories anyway. I'm a storywriter/scripwriter, I've got better things to do than tap away on buttons all day long. That was an ironic last sentence by the way. So no anally retentive nit picking. I get enough of that at work. Proper work, not the work that involves tapping bits of plastic.

[INVINCIBLE]

no what annoys me i was in pub doing a hit and owner sits by me n starts quizzing me about the deal or no deal emptys that he actually got off this site,some things are best kept quiet understand?this sight has no effect on how i play fruits or what i know about fruits or how i get info on fruits

this is excatly it.

[PMK]

Ah well.

I tried to be sensible.

Now your replies are just funny.

Might post a full write up for reds shortly just to wind you up.

Its the bloody internet, and the people who are annoyed at me have probably learned the majority of there stuff about machines off the net too!!

This is also a fruit machine forum where people are supposed to swap questions and answers. If your seriously concerned about whats posted on the net about machines then you either DONT play for a living, or you haven't done so properly for any length of time and as such have no real experince, or your losing fortunes because your an addict and want to protect your mininalistic respite. No real player gives a toss about old info thats posted on the net because its edging on worthless and, even if it isn't, you cant do anything to stop it.

Either way, get over it. How to force a red is far from secret nowadays.

Now if I was to explain why everyones local carribean cash is getting harder and harder to win some quick beer money off on a public forum then I would be annoyed at me..................

And before the smart arse comments I'm not even gonna hint about the decent stuff just now.

I think its ok to talk about reds along the lines of 'It was showing so I went for it' etc etc. Because other 'players' know what you are referring to. However when a clear non-player who hasn't a clue comes along and starts getting told the signs etc to look for then it is slightly worrying. Admittedly, you need experience and the funds to back what you've been told but it doesn't take long for even a non player to leave reds dead if they just force for the top to get a £70/£105 even at a loss. THAT is the problem.

The reason why some CC's are not very lively is because of an age old mazooma bug that as far as I can see has NEVER been discussed on this forum or indeed any other. Thats why on most CC's and indeed other zomma's have not been chipped out against it.

As always I am finding red's very hit and miss, but the less people that know about their profiles/signs etc the better. Surely as a player whether a full time one or not you can understand the logic of that?

Sure lets discuss machines but not in to much detail on a free open forum. Thats what PM's and MSN is for surely?

[Matt Vinyl]

perambulation of well healedishness

Fantastic!!

Anyway, why all the fuss here? How many of you on here 'found out' about all the 'signs' you know yourself? I'd lay my money on it being <5% of the members here. Information spreads, that's what information is. One player noticed that when the majority of features turn a certain colour at a certain stage, they are close to winning a top plus a repeat or two. This was then passed on to someone else, either knowingly, or unknowingly, and this continues and continues...

If the original poster had looked at almost any thread in the Red section, he would have found out how to play pretty much any Red spot on. We've all talked about how to play the fruit-step machines in detail, we've all debated 'in detail' what the 'signs' are, on machines like OAR, SMTM, V, I. Has it really had an effect on our 'takings' from said machines? I really don't think it has.

From experience, not many people have the 'balls' to force a Red. A chum of mine who was playing an Invincible in the same pub that I'd just rolled a £105 out of the Vortex (he was playing at the same time, but then I went over to see how he was getting on). Anyway, he was about £60 in and it was redding all over the place and offering good wins. But, even though I had convinced him that it was 'so due' he took a red seven win, and said 'Nah, I have to cut my losses.' I offered to bankroll him if needed, but he wouldn't have it. He said, 'Well, I hope you win, it's much better than someone else winning it!'

On I jumped, and within £20 had a top that went for £35 followed by one the board after for £70.

Now, if you have any feelings for chums at all, that would put you in an awkward position. We went on to have a good evening, and he had some joy on a P5 later and ended up with most of his money back.

But, what I'm trying to say is, he had all (my) the knowledge on how to dump a Red, but still didn't capitalise on it. This WILL be the case for a lot of the casual players that read the info. on here...

...Don't worry about it!!

[PMK]

A very fair and valid point.

I gave a little advice on SMTM in another thread and I may be contradicting myslef here to be fair.

I think when it comes to the newer reds then the advice *can* mean nothing anyway because of how naughty they can be. £200+ anyone?

Uber_pro mentioned that the reds in his area are always on their arse. Well that maybe the case, but I still have a number of good hits that aren't getting done in my area. By that I mean 'other' reds away from this new breed which I very rarely bother with now.

If it was the other way round then I'm sure he would want them protected for his own benefit.

I would never stitch some one up with evil advice but come on......

Yes, some info is readily available but at least try and stop it from becoming global!!