Normal toggle climb is £5 guaranteed on most reds. its simply skill, however as King said after that it can offer £7 or a 10er but thats from the m/cs own accord. Its pseudo skill after a £5, on green.
Super toggle climb is £7 guaranteed but most times £10. Sometimes does £15.
doubt ill ever play a red again
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Me neither.MrRed wrote:Agree with most of that
Although i have never had, or seen £15 from toggles
Not saying it can't, just never had it happen to me
Except when it gives you Toggle Climb from the Super Bonus while you're on £5 on the cash stack, and it gambles to the top feature. That's always a nice one on a rainy day.
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had £12 on red toggle on sub zero before, never £15 though on any red.
as for reds in general, "forcing till it shows reds" is a tricky one - I used to always do it, but have changed track to just trying to get the top as quickly as possible but trying to avoid safe cash as much as possible ( i.e. reversing hi-lo on nudges if the setup is crap ). IMO if you get the top when it was close to showing red then it will streak... if it doesnt streak then it may have been way off showing, and in which case you probably wouldnt end up any better off - ie. £25 now or £50 top £25 later.
tbh I find going for reds that aren't showing a very dodgy affair - probably best off not to bother in most cases.
as for reds in general, "forcing till it shows reds" is a tricky one - I used to always do it, but have changed track to just trying to get the top as quickly as possible but trying to avoid safe cash as much as possible ( i.e. reversing hi-lo on nudges if the setup is crap ). IMO if you get the top when it was close to showing red then it will streak... if it doesnt streak then it may have been way off showing, and in which case you probably wouldnt end up any better off - ie. £25 now or £50 top £25 later.
tbh I find going for reds that aren't showing a very dodgy affair - probably best off not to bother in most cases.
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I went for a LAB the other brand new in the pub, and it was not showing but kept offering like the one red feature(usually stoppa fruit)and £10 was there etc, but then it kept killing on £2 and giving 4s and 8s etc.
Anyway after £30 through it just turned red and it was a real red board, £30 later it through the top up after a all red board from gambling features, needed a piss so left it on the top had a piss to come back to a £25 in the bank, anyway hit it for the £50.
Then it give the shells off the bonus on the number, would NOT got to dirty dozen and timed out on a £7 hi-lo cash.
Then give a fruit step board using a nudge setup to get a extra £15, was on a 2 aswel, did not want to risk it though
Anyway after £30 through it just turned red and it was a real red board, £30 later it through the top up after a all red board from gambling features, needed a piss so left it on the top had a piss to come back to a £25 in the bank, anyway hit it for the £50.
Then it give the shells off the bonus on the number, would NOT got to dirty dozen and timed out on a £7 hi-lo cash.
Then give a fruit step board using a nudge setup to get a extra £15, was on a 2 aswel, did not want to risk it though
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I would certainly have gambled on that 2!
£10 is the key mark on most (if not all!) Reds. If you can bypass this block, I'd say that a top is pretty much 80% on.
A classic example, is where you are going up the cash trail, and you 'never' get offered any features that would give over £10, you get to the £10 mark on the trail, it's offering you Red Toggle climb and say £5 safe cash. If you're on the force, this is where you will get fobbed off 'with at least' a £5 win which you didn't want. But, it all looks promising doesn't it? It'll kill you on that 11 for the £10 to the £15 gamble, it'll lose for you if you gamble the bonus or the feature.
It's a very significant block. Although having said that, I'd discount DNA / LAB / GADD from this, as the block is more situated on the £15.
Oh, and Red Toggle is a guaranteed tenner. Just get your rythmn right, I let it flash twice and hit it on the third. Don't even bother looking when it's the £15 gamble, it 'never' goes (in my experience!)
£10 is the key mark on most (if not all!) Reds. If you can bypass this block, I'd say that a top is pretty much 80% on.
A classic example, is where you are going up the cash trail, and you 'never' get offered any features that would give over £10, you get to the £10 mark on the trail, it's offering you Red Toggle climb and say £5 safe cash. If you're on the force, this is where you will get fobbed off 'with at least' a £5 win which you didn't want. But, it all looks promising doesn't it? It'll kill you on that 11 for the £10 to the £15 gamble, it'll lose for you if you gamble the bonus or the feature.
It's a very significant block. Although having said that, I'd discount DNA / LAB / GADD from this, as the block is more situated on the £15.
Oh, and Red Toggle is a guaranteed tenner. Just get your rythmn right, I let it flash twice and hit it on the third. Don't even bother looking when it's the £15 gamble, it 'never' goes (in my experience!)
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Its weird you know, as when ever I have a top feature I will cover my eyes or look away in the hope it carries on.
Monopoly top reels hoping for the £25 carry on I will walk off and come back to it about a minuite later hoping it has carried on.
Roullette in the bookies (trying to quit theese horribe things) I will cover the screen etc etc.
Guess im just weird like that
Monopoly top reels hoping for the £25 carry on I will walk off and come back to it about a minuite later hoping it has carried on.
Roullette in the bookies (trying to quit theese horribe things) I will cover the screen etc etc.
Guess im just weird like that
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Exactly what he said, if you don't wanna/can't key it, then you gotta learn to look for signs. I don't know any GOOD players who would ever get this sucked into a dead machine.remy wrote:you can do your bollocks on most reds if you catch them after a streak, if you cant key em you can soon see the state of play by the way they number ie no tens or threes., nines and fours are favourites if dead. common red sense really
I meant an easy tenner when in red. Yes on normal it is skill to a fiver.king_conspiracy wrote:"Toggle climb is an easy tenner but can be after play"
Sorry but this is complete Bollocks.
Toggle climb, is more often than not £5. If it wants to go further it will but most commonly the "toggle" will go Pseudo at the £5 mark.
It isnt an easy tenner at all, an easy fiver yes.
King.
Going back to sending it red i will do it every time but if the all the signs are there, slow spinning reals, full / nearly full that's not a daily refill, gambling past £5 etc etc.
also talking about TG/RM/JG etc not DNA / LAB.
Another good thing, and i get the idea not many people on here do it is checking the last win and also the last bank recall.
When u get used to it u can do it really quickly.
You should have seen the face on my mate yesterday (who doesn't gamble that much) who was stood next to me said "how much is it out?" so for a start he didn't even see the amount although stood next to me, and i replied "£7 out, last win £2, last bank zero"
He was like "what?!" Nice - if he can't see it i'm sure bar staff can't
also talking about TG/RM/JG etc not DNA / LAB.
Another good thing, and i get the idea not many people on here do it is checking the last win and also the last bank recall.
When u get used to it u can do it really quickly.
You should have seen the face on my mate yesterday (who doesn't gamble that much) who was stood next to me said "how much is it out?" so for a start he didn't even see the amount although stood next to me, and i replied "£7 out, last win £2, last bank zero"
He was like "what?!" Nice - if he can't see it i'm sure bar staff can't