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Stevie S · Post by **Stevie S** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:45 pm

Tooling is the same as robbing from the till mate. Someone who goes around tooling machines can't be trusted in any other walk of life for me.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:42 pm

no sorry feeder m8 ,,,,,,,

even if i could 100% get away with it ,,,,,,,, and nobody knew

i would know .

stealing is stealing ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, its just not the way i was brought up.

Glendale · Post by **Glendale** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:48 pm

The problem is every landlord thinks were robbers anyhow! We all get tarred with the same brush!

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:14 pm

fucking losers

i suppose if you "could get away with it" you'd mug someone to "win" their wallet, or "win" the tray out of an unguarded till, or break a car windscreen in an attempt to "win" an ipod?

fucking dick.

anfield road · Post by **anfield road** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:18 pm

at the end of the day its upto the individual what they do to make money, I dont class myself as a pro at all.
I can make money and dont slag anyone off.

Alot of the people who say they would never tool or never have is because they aint got the balls or the contacts to get the required tool.

robbing out of cash boxes is stealing, some tooling is very skilled and clever!

I dont tool and never will, but you cant come on here slagging people off because you think they are a bad person....

You go to a pub, theres a p1 cops and robbers (video screen £70) you empty the hopper and then leave £1 in it!! if it is a small independent company then you are taking someones money and leaving them skint!!!

Just saying there is 2 sides to this coin

feeder22 · Post by **feeder22** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:42 pm

Bit of an angry responce there spyder for someone who has happily stated many times on here they'd break the law at the drop of a hat. Whats the differance between poisoning someones pet dog/smashing up a machine/pub if you had bother or numerous other threats of violence? Its my opinion and i'll stick by it. The differance being is I understand that not everyone will agree with me. Whereas I get the impression with you, its your way or no way.

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:46 pm

anfield road wrote:at the end of the day its upto the individual what they do to make money, I dont class myself as a pro at all.
I can make money and dont slag anyone off.

Alot of the people who say they would never tool or never have is because they aint got the balls or the contacts to get the required tool.

robbing out of cash boxes is stealing, some tooling is very skilled and clever!

Biggest load of bollocks i've ever seen anyone put on here.

If you walked upto a cash point with a hi-tec gadget and after some skillful number crunching gained entry to the machine and withdrew £300, nay bother it's only the greedy banks money, drop in the ocean.
It's STILL theft, ILLEGAL, It's down to a persons morals not balls.

I've been brought up to respect what's right and whats wrong no matter what shitty hand life deals you.

Now i'm not here preaching about you and your choices in life but please for fuck sake don't try and justify a Thief.

anfield road wrote: You go to a pub, theres a p1 cops and robbers (video screen £70) you empty the hopper and then leave £1 in it!! if it is a small independent company then you are taking someones money and leaving them skint!!!

Just saying there is 2 sides to this coin

Love this argument that gets brought up every once in a while.

You play the machine and empty it, you get caught in the act, the police arrive there's fuck all they can prosecute as you've put your money in it, played the game and won.
Tooling means your tampering with the machine, not putting money in your effectively breaking into the machine and taking out it's contents.

Your right though an emptier is as close to crossing the line as you'll get, but it's still just about on the right side.

Stevie S · Post by **Stevie S** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:54 pm

I say we all have a meet and knock fuck out of each other (no super heros allowed!)

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:57 pm

Man of 'steal' as apposed to man of 'steel'

Stevie S · Post by **Stevie S** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:01 pm

Robin Hood is welcome Scott since he has no special powers and chucks the boys a bit for a pint!

blackmogu · Post by **blackmogu** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:02 pm

An emptier is as far away from any legal line (and on the good side of the line) as you like.

I've mentioned it before, and now once again:-

1. It's not up to the consumer to decide what the supplier intended their game to do. Just because something is unusual and repeatable does not make it somehow 'bad' or 'illegal'.

2. It's not up to the law to cover up bits of companies' business plans that didn't quite work out due to their own lack of testing.

There is no law or precedent making anything illegal that is involved in an emptier that solely relies upon using the inputs to a machine (the buttons).

Simply put, once the machine has accepted your money, there is a contract between you and the supplier of the machine to provide you with a game. How the machine does this is up to the program (the manufacturers choice). The supplier cannot turn up in court and say that they want part of the contract declared illegal after they have agreed to it as part of your contract that was accepted as soon as your money was taken.

Stevie S · Post by **Stevie S** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:13 pm

I don't think it is worth going down the legal road with all this to be honest, everyone knows their is a world of difference between an emptier and tooling a machine.

blackmogu · Post by **blackmogu** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:17 pm

They way I see it is that if I post a well reasoned argument as to why something is, then perhaps i'll provoke some thought in people.

Stevie S · Post by **Stevie S** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:20 pm

If people really believed that tooling a machine was the same as an emptier or a rip then they wouldn't be interested in methods at all, they would just go out and tool every machine. They know full well they are two very different things which is why they would never refuse a rip or an emptier from anyone.

feeder22 · Post by **feeder22** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:38 pm

Skill quest illegal .cash attacks Illegal, for that matter any plugable machine older ones that loads of you would of done, crazy fruits, spotted dick . gaminators. Ceasers palace etc Illegal. The old p1 slottos illegal, random spinners illegal. Superholds illegal if you plug them........putting games back on quizzers illegal. Loads more for sure. How many of you anti toolers have done one of the above?