Games thought of being non-jackpotable

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Nil Satis wrote:Virtually the only reason I play quiz machines is to win money. I would prefer to be entertained in some way at the same time, and do have a fondness for a game or two of Word Up which is unrelated to my ability to win anything more than about £3, but the ability to win decent money (£10+) is the only real criterion I use to judge a game.
Hear, hear.
Nil Satis wrote:To be honest I am mystified as to why anyone who plays quiz machines regularly would think otherwise, unless you play for entertainment not money, basically just for something to do to fill time.
To be honest I am mystified as to why anyone would play quiz machines for entertainment, seeing as they are practically the antithesis thereof. What's entertaining (for Joe Punter) about the rare occasions you actually get somewhere, then being confronted with drivel questions that only a savant or a professional would know the answer to? To say nothing of the objectively appalling standard of factual accuracy, grammar and spelling.
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Whatever you do don't gamble on the end game unless you want to see the £10 disappear in a pseudo-skill puff of smoke!
Agreed! Gambling on any level on the end-game appears completely fruitless...
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cp999 wrote:
To be honest I am mystified as to why anyone would play quiz machines for entertainment, seeing as they are practically the antithesis thereof. What's entertaining (for Joe Punter) about the rare occasions you actually get somewhere, then being confronted with drivel questions that only a savant or a professional would know the answer to? To say nothing of the objectively appalling standard of factual accuracy, grammar and spelling.
because it is a pub game. people play darts and pool while having a pint; maybe with a shilling on the side. they are not likely to be at purfleet or the crucible next week.
years ago it was backgammon and dominoes and before that cock fighting and dice. the concept of entertainment/gambling in pubs is nothing new, SWP is just an opportunity to do something in the pub rather than pretending to read a paper and just drinking instead. for me there is enjoyment in playing SWP, but admittedly, if i wasn't a boozer i wouldn't play nearly as much.

i don't think normal pub folk really expect to win, for a group of four mates, a pound each for half an hour of guided conversation is very good value. even if they spend it on STD.
once the £1 is in the slot it stays there, even if a small win comes easily it is never collected, just recycled. in real terms, what is £1 when you have just paid £12.00 for a round?

on the other point, i think any factual inaccuracy/spg errors are not noticed by casual punters. except things asking about pluto and highbury when the smart aleck of the group can regale his mates with fantastical facts to show off his knowledge. there is a deal of machismo in group SWPing.
nobody ever wins on those things.
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Must be my jaundiced attitude then. I think I last found quiz machines entertaining about 15 years ago. I'm reminded of the acquaintance who would set out to play Barquests armed with a sheaf of the day's cryptic crosswords, which he would sit and do whilst he emptied the various machines. I'm guessing he didn't find quiz machining entertaining either ;)

In any case (returning to the topic) it seems that there are rather a lot of games out there where the advertised jackpot is hypothetical only.
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Feel I should speak up in defence of SWPs: I find them quite an entertaining way to pass time - that's how I began playing them (despite losing money initially), and one of the reasons I continue playing them now. But I guess the difference might be that I don't have to do it for a living: if I did, I can imagine I'd get heartily sick of them pretty sharpish. Also, I'm pretty much interested in anything with a quiz element to it, so it's not surprising I like quiz machines too.
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I can find profitable games entertaining at the same time but I would go for profit over entertainment every single time. I do make an exception for Word Up (and the late lamented Sum Up), where in any case I can usually get my stake back at least, but non-profitable games usually make me feel annoyed rather than entertained, for example the current In It To Win It debacle, which makes me want to punch the screen and I'm really not a violent person! :wink:

The most profitable game I've ever known, the Pepsi Music Quiz, was also deeply dull and playing that for long periods felt more like a real job than anything else I can remember. Deal or No Deal can be similar - ploughing through 4 or 5 rounds only to end up with a 50p prize then repeating this several times until finally getting a worthwhile return.

However my list of the most purely entertaining quiz games to play would have to include the following, in no particular order:

- Millionaire - every variant other than the dreadful 2006 edition

- Big Match World Cup - the 'slowdown' bonus making this one a really enjoyable challenge

- Fantasy Football Quiz

and a few golden oldies:

- Countdown - not the crappy recent versions but the two older standalone games, particularly the one where you had to find variable length words

- Quizvaders

- Family Fortunes

- Adders and Ladders

- QuizMaster

- Give Us a Break



I bet I've forgotten loads...
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dmac wrote:No doubt when I have played for as long as you guys I will feel the same... if so I hope I wouldn't waste my spare time on something I didn't enjoy just to scrape together a few quid that I didn't really need. *shrug*
I rather doubt that some of us are doing it to "scrape together a few quid". I for one am certainly not interested in wandering around pissing about to come back with £30 more than I started with.
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Ok then, I think it would be fair to say that I don't play quiz machines at all in my spare time, and I guess my initial point was that I don't in truth understand why anyone would play them for fun as frankly I think they are deeply boring, but that's just me. A means to an end, pure and simple, though that's not to say that a certain level of satisfaction can't be derived from the process.
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the satisfaction is from the profit and the enjoyment is not derived from playing the game but from the fact that I am better than the 99.9% of other people playing it.
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Have had a 20JP from goldenballs but only the once. It was on an ITBOX
in a pub well off the beaten track and it was when the olympics were on
a tv next to the machine. I was going through the motions bored shitless and all of a sudden JP yippee !!!!.To be perfectly honest it wasn't even playing easy, plenty of sets of three questions so it was a complete shocker.
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Good work Wires - nice to know it's possible...
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I know someone who *claims* that he was playing Goldenballs and the machine trapped itself - saying that it eliminated the only killer right at the start and he got >£20 as a result. I'm not sure whether I believe this or not. I've had the only killer eliminated first ball but it went on to offer me an assortment of rubbish which added up to £8.
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Post by wires74 »

Similarly on a non jackpotable note never once have I JP'D 1 v 100 or deal or no deal , 10 quid is the most I've won on these.
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