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maverick69 · Post by **maverick69** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:19 am

ive had enuf of these fools goin all in with 5 7 off suit and catching flushes i kno we all get bad beat but that was just ridiculious well pissed off :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

pokerpete · Post by **pokerpete** » Mon May 28, 2007 1:29 pm

didnt we just read a story of you handing out a 9/2 out draw and scooping a massive pot, before scuttling away with the money?

http://www.fruitchat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=7154

you have to be able to take the beats as well as hand them out

if I know for a fact you have A,A I am more likely to win with 5,7 suited than QQ.

harry 3 · Post by **harry 3** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:48 am

Exactly why Gus Hansen wins so often, he "knows" what you have. His cards are "irrelevant".

mjd · Post by **mjd** » Wed May 30, 2007 6:27 pm

thats just daft..

pokerpete · Post by **pokerpete** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:08 am

what is?

mjd · Post by **mjd** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:15 pm

'Gus hansen knows what people have'

Thats daft. You make assumptions yes, but those assumptions are not guaranteed to be correct!

harry 3 · Post by **harry 3** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:16 am

True, but he makes a lot of final tables, his instincts are better than most.

mjd · Post by **mjd** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:06 pm

Thats right yep, But Its like most other things, theres millions of poker players out there, so someone is bound to be the most successful..

I think the WSOP is open to anyone? So anyone from a rich background can enter, and if they do half decently (which in a game with so much luck involed is more than possible) they are considered 'professionals' just because they are there! and have a Decent stack!

acen123 · Post by **acen123** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:06 pm

Doesnt WSOP Main Event have very long blind levels? The slower the blind increases, the more play in a tourney and in theory should promote skill & experience versus blind luck. The PKR one i play has 15 min blind levels though i suppose higher stakes have longer blind levels & deeper stacks?

pokerpete · Post by **pokerpete** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:06 pm

2 hour levels
starting with 10,000 chips
blinds
10/20 i think

deep stack poker is more skillful but with 8000+ players it's still a bit of a lottery. with a field that large which does include the best players in the world, it can't be won by a complete mug but there's no guarentee it'll be won by a top player either.

Dibble · Post by **Dibble** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:26 pm

The pros consistently do far better in these tournaments than the average Joe. I disagree that its only open to people from rich backgrounds. Both sites I play at offer freeroles to gain entery to the WSOP, and various stages to suit all budgets.

I have a friend going to one of the events at the WSOP ($2k) and he is not from a rich background. He has just made a lot of money playing the game. Anyone who thinks its luck is a player who has not fully grasped the concept of poker. Ok people get sucked out on but you wont often find top players ever going all in pre flop with anything less that the top 3/4 permium hands.

During varioust SNG's and MMT's its routinely the same people I see at the final tables.

mjd · Post by **mjd** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:34 am

thats fair enough.. but to be in the WSOP your instantly considered a 'pro' even in round one!

pokerpete · Post by **pokerpete** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:42 pm

not at all. the standard of play for the first couple of days is shocking in the main event. The big boys do well because they are better at exploiting bad play from amature mugs, of which there are plenty in the WSOP.

pokerpete · Post by **pokerpete** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:43 pm