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Staggered £350 on Vortex

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:36 am
by PMK
Wandered into a local haunt which has vortex and Snakes in.

Muppets playing a vortex that was arb. Collected red star prize and then a fiver and left it £20 off.

On step me and another board member. Straight chase, £120 in(ouch) to get it arb. £230 in to get a top(just constant bad numbers). Flat.

Takes all that £35 back plus another tenner(now £240 in) and another top £105. I am now thinking its still definately gonna be there so just re-chase. No signs, no arb obviously past £5 and £10 happy.

Get Down to £40 in bank, still no arb and still no top. Down to £30 and then £35 top. Next board arb £70 top. Next board arb bitched on a 3 for MS. Next board £105!!!

£350 staggered(very) run!! Ended up about £16 down on it.

Sweat and tears during chase, panick after first £105 dissapeared down to £30 in seconds!) Then relief for 3 quick tops £35, £70 and £105!!

Have had Invincibles do this but not Vortex. Secretly tho.......I loved it!!!

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:52 pm
by Spyder
not really a £350 run though was it.. you just played it for long enough to hit two 105's in one session

going by what you said it went:

£230 in to get a top of 35 (currently 195 down)
another £45 (now £240 in) to get top of £105

Down to £30 and then £35 top.
Next board arb £70 top.
Next board £105!!!

30 + 35 + 70 + 105 = 240 (- credits inbetween boards)

approx initial stake of £240 in for approx 240 out......

whos the fool? you or the ill-informed guys who were "punting" it before you for a couple of red features?

hmmmmm

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:59 pm
by Spyder
although id probably have done the same as you...

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:32 pm
by GaryChandler
£120 to get it arb, bit harsh!

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:58 pm
by Spyder
GaryChandler wrote:£120 to get it arb, bit harsh!
although all red but one is a good indication, reds do not have to be in this state to jp, or double or treble top,

sounds like a typical unlucky day really, straightforwardly wrong place at the wrong time....

basicly it had taken a big hit the night before, had a full refill, two guys played it in the morning, put a few quid in, got a red feature and a fiver taking any last value from the machine,

OP went on and took a total battering on a seemingly full machine..

unlucky, but not all that bad as it did eventually rolll for nearly the full amount they put in....

Re: Staggered £350 on Vortex

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:45 pm
by jb13
PMK wrote:Wandered into a local haunt which has vortex and Snakes in.

Muppets playing a vortex that was arb. Collected red star prize and then a fiver and left it £20 off.

On step me and another board member. Straight chase, £120 in(ouch) to get it arb. £230 in to get a top(just constant bad numbers). Flat.

Takes all that £35 back plus another tenner(now £240 in) and another top £105. I am now thinking its still definately gonna be there so just re-chase. No signs, no arb obviously past £5 and £10 happy.

Get Down to £40 in bank, still no arb and still no top. Down to £30 and then £35 top. Next board arb £70 top. Next board arb bitched on a 3 for MS. Next board £105!!!

£350 staggered(very) run!! Ended up about £16 down on it.

Sweat and tears during chase, panick after first £105 dissapeared down to £30 in seconds!) Then relief for 3 quick tops £35, £70 and £105!!

Have had Invincibles do this but not Vortex. Secretly tho.......I loved it!!!

Ended up £16 down and I guess about 1 hour of your time. So the two muppets who were on it before could have left the machine possibly £10/15 up. Now here is my question to this board who do you think the muppets are?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:53 pm
by GaryChandler
You.

How many times do you reckon that situation occours and you jump on it and make a quick £40 on it?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:22 pm
by Spyder
the arb was a suck in, just one of the random ones that red machines have dropped on you every few times you play,

surely over the course of the first £40 there was a bit of doubt about the roll coming at all,

from the sound of it, you punted it a lot, do you play on the highest stake? many 12nudges? or many many attempted gambles from £4 only to die before 7?

the machine must almost definitely had a battering before you played, maybe even badly floated and emptied earlyer that day, then fully floated?

BAD BAD beat, i really feel sorry for you having t risk that amount of money, but, a lot of us would also have chased it,

it is very true, many times you will see this situation and make a hefty profit, but, the signs must have been there that after the £20 killed it dead?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:15 pm
by JG
That's gambling unfortunately.

It's heads up poker. My opponent goes all in and even flips over his pocket cards. He has two aces. I have 7 2. I decide to call deep stack and the board comes 7,7,7,2,2.

Who is the mug?


Me obviously. I made a poor play and got lucky.

On the flip side, I'll sometimes make a good play and get unlucky.



If a Vortex was properly there, I know what I'd be doing, subject to not having to leave in the next few minutes.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:27 pm
by Mattb
Yeah these things happen. Love the scretly i love it bit on the end PMK, know how you feel :wink: I do have a laugh to myself at times when stuff like this happens, just pure pisstake really. Please tell me you red them up spyder.....if you don't red them up, then oh dear.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:33 pm
by JG
yeah, I know that it's rare, but sometimes losing can be more fun than winning. I had a battle, long time ago with some clubbers in a snooker hall. Ten hour session where I was at one point £400ish down, finished £29 down for the night. I was technically up, as I had to give £45 to my g/f, she demand a chunk of the 'profits'. Anyhow, it felt better than any 30 minute +£50 session. Long story, I'll make it into a movie someday.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:02 am
by Spyder
Mattb wrote:Yeah these things happen. Love the scretly i love it bit on the end PMK, know how you feel :wink: I do have a laugh to myself at times when stuff like this happens, just pure pisstake really. Please tell me you red them up spyder.....if you don't red them up, then oh dear.
you telling me you push every red for the top end streak by buzzing the hell out of it?

what extra do you actually make from this? to be honest, i dont think it'd be particually wise to attempt this on all the different versions of all the different reds... maybe this is why you all get burned so badly on them??

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:07 am
by Scott
I agree with spyder, I've had plenty of tops that have gone £70/£105 just by chasing them when they are through the £5, even if the top only does a £35 the chances are it will show after this i find, holding out for it too red up can cost stacks. made plenty of £30/£40 profits playing this way.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:12 am
by Mattb
Erm, i don't get done over by them! Obviously on newer ones its a different ball game as you don't need to. Red x'ers snd fruit steppers tend to go hand-in hand with chase, so again no need.

Stuff like FNC though i find its a must. I'll play out tops on a vortex if im not much in and its there but not red, as you can spawn £70s at times. Depends on the situation, but generally on older reds with features i'd red them first. Nowadays it ain't an issue with the adevnt of stuff like snakez, SMTM, COB etc.

Re: Staggered £350 on Vortex

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:56 pm
by PMK
jb13 wrote:
PMK wrote:Wandered into a local haunt which has vortex and Snakes in.

Muppets playing a vortex that was arb. Collected red star prize and then a fiver and left it £20 off.

On step me and another board member. Straight chase, £120 in(ouch) to get it arb. £230 in to get a top(just constant bad numbers). Flat.

Takes all that £35 back plus another tenner(now £240 in) and another top £105. I am now thinking its still definately gonna be there so just re-chase. No signs, no arb obviously past £5 and £10 happy.

Get Down to £40 in bank, still no arb and still no top. Down to £30 and then £35 top. Next board arb £70 top. Next board arb bitched on a 3 for MS. Next board £105!!!

£350 staggered(very) run!! Ended up about £16 down on it.

Sweat and tears during chase, panick after first £105 dissapeared down to £30 in seconds!) Then relief for 3 quick tops £35, £70 and £105!!

Have had Invincibles do this but not Vortex. Secretly tho.......I loved it!!!

Ended up £16 down and I guess about 1 hour of your time. So the two muppets who were on it before could have left the machine possibly £10/15 up. Now here is my question to this board who do you think the muppets are?
On this occasion I was but as Mr Chandler rightly pointed out normally this would of ended in a half decent profit, which of course I wouldn't have bothered reporting. On this occasion it ripped the piss big time and I thought I would post about a blatant naughty red suck mode.

I appologise.