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fmlad2002 · Post by **fmlad2002** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:45 pm

I've got this one near me - was about 15 off full but semi alive.. forced for top which cost about 35 top only went for 25 - nxt board 8/10 red up to a tenner then dead.. recycled back through + another tenner for 25 again.. Next 3 boards dead but first cost 7 quid to get.. Recycled a 2nd time + another 15 this time - went for 25 again. next few boards were green so took small wins...

Not impressed from first play..

Played on 50p to speed up process...

theoak · Post by **theoak** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:56 pm

I have had similar things off SA, four forces, for four flats. costing me about £110 (including recycling etc- ie 10squid down)

nigeswindon25 · Post by **nigeswindon25** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:07 pm

forced one of these last weekend.took close to 130 out of it first top gave a flat 25,then got up top again though i think it gave me a weird amount.i know first jackpot of 25 was a make up of odd cash amounts second one was the straight 25 then it continued and thinking it was going to round it up to 75 but it never gave some obscure amount.was some what drunk but has anyone tried to count the total cash amounts in the circle?what does it actually add up too?>

MrRed · Post by **MrRed** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:08 pm

Its not just this particular m/c
Its just reds in general
They do this from time to time

They get forced and re-forced too much, and this is what happens every now and then
A pain for sure, but another day it will give the £75 from less than £30 in

Nixxy · Post by **Nixxy** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:00 pm

nigeswindon25 wrote:forced one of these last weekend.took close to 130 out of it first top gave a flat 25,then got up top again though i think it gave me a weird amount.i know first jackpot of 25 was a make up of odd cash amounts second one was the straight 25 then it continued and thinking it was going to round it up to 75 but it never gave some obscure amount.was some what drunk but has anyone tried to count the total cash amounts in the circle?what does it actually add up too?>

I raised this point when it was first released, as it didn't look like it was possible to get a £75 top. I was wrong! - the answer is £85.

From the top: £25, £5, £4, £7, £5, £4, £5, £4, £5, £10, £7, £4.

ob · Post by ob » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:57 am

yeh I've noticed the streaks are rarely great on this machine, although the same could be said about jp gems, which I must have played ( no exageration ) about 500 times, with at least 65% of those times giving a poor £25 then cost £1-25 for another £25 top...

The other poor streaks often come on the following:

Sub zero/Kings ransom ( rarely does £75 tops, and really hard to get the top sometimes )

Pulsation ( crappy £35/40 tops kill the streak off, but now and again you get a lucky big streak )

DNA ( ok I nearly didnt put this in, but the top always seemed to me alot more likely to go £25 than anything more, at least compared to LAB/X-rated - UNLESS it had cost a fuck load of course. )

Holey money - same as Jp gems, seems really hard to get the top here sometimes...

There's some others ie. take 2, and some older ones, but I wont go into that here.

(note here I'm talking about the times they DO streak, not just £25-35 tops and dead)

On the positive side, in my experience the following do good streaks:

Bling bling ( not many like this I know )

Invincible ( had loads of £75 - occasionly fucks u about to get it tho )

LAB+GADD ( loads of big streaks )

Cobra/giza/rocket money ( nice EASY tops, which can happily be £75 )

Nixxy · Post by **Nixxy** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:32 pm

ob wrote:The other poor streaks often come on the following:

Sub zero/Kings ransom ( rarely does £75 tops, and really hard to get the top sometimes )

Which in both cases HAS to be down to the amount of Safe Cash these two force upon you - making it take far longer to build the streak pot up..

ob wrote:Pulsation ( crappy £35/40 tops kill the streak off, but now and again you get a lucky big streak )

Again this one almost gives the top too often - if it went up there less, you wouldn't get fobbed off with all those disappointing £10 wins. It almost like a Safe Cash top - you either get the tenner or you get a proper Jackpot. The £50+ top really is nice when you get it - but the awards of smaller tops make it too rare]Holey money - same as Jp gems, seems really hard to get the top here sometimes...[/quote]

This machine epitomises the difference between the first set of Red releases of their kind (eg. Top Giza/Crazy Cobra/Paycheque) and the second (eg. Holy Moley/FNC), in that although they're laid out almost identically, they just don't display the obvious signs anymore. You end up in a real battle to get the top, and you can never be quite sure that it's gonna go all the way until it actually has.

ob wrote:On the positive side, in my experience the following do good streaks:

Bling bling ( not many like this I know )

Agreed - BB could really mess you around sometimes but at least you could get a feel for how much work you needed to do to get a result, and you felt you had a pretty good chance of the top going for more than just a flat £25 unlike some of the above mentioned machines.

ob wrote:Invincible ( had loads of £75 - occasionly fucks u about to get it tho )

Can't disagree with that either - personally I'm loving this machine - not too much of the unexpected.

ob wrote:LAB+GADD ( loads of big streaks )... Cobra/giza/rocket money ( nice EASY tops, which can happily be £75 )

Again, these are machines where you pretty much know where you stand ... and importantly, when to walk.

MrRed · Post by **MrRed** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:29 pm

Played a £35 FNC last night
What a piss take

Full and red first board
Cost £60 for top does £35
Still red, a few pound later lets me get to £35, gamble to top loses
Btw the red sevens are at £25 then you gamble to £35 then gamble for top so there is an extra gamble

Goes dead for about £20 then red again
About another £10 in the top does £35 again
Still red does the same loses on £35 and dies for £20 ish
Reds return not long after get the top, yes does £35 AGAIN

Still red

now and manage to get a NR for £25
Won gamble to £35 and guess what?
Yep gamble to top loses and it dies again
By this time i am falling asleep
Anyway another top for..... yep £35 comes about £40 after but by this time i hardly care
Then it really goes dead

I hope they are not this bad in general
Although i have heard some bad stories

ob · Post by ob » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:59 pm

yes the tops seem VERY likely to go £35 on the £35JP's....

much prefer £25JP

MrRed · Post by **MrRed** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:45 pm

Must say though i have played the £35 OAR which seems ok
This FNC just felt different

Although the £25/50p OAR is better

I have played the £35 Lucky Devil too
That seems fine, had a few £70's for not much in

ob · Post by ob » Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:03 pm

played the £35 OAR, seemed ok as you say, although still got £35 tops all the time, same story for invincible £35...

I know what u mean about the FNC, the ones I've played have just been wierdo.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:10 pm

I hate these £35s....there's so much less scope for streak potential. At least £25s have £25/£50/£75, these ones have a more crazy increment which makes bigger tops less likely IMO.

Stopnstep · Post by **Stopnstep** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:43 am

Hate it when that happens Mr Red but I have lost count of the times that it does this on £25 reds too. They just seem to do it occasionally where they seem to just not want to repeat. You ending up being on the machine for over an hour and losing the will to live. :x

Having mixed results on these FNC's at the moment. Only have a couple, one seems fine and the other seems harsh. Just depends on who else is playing it and how I suppose.

Martal~Wombat · Post by **Martal~Wombat** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:52 pm

One of these just popped up near me,
50p 25JP, 1st board ARB1, 2nd board
ARB2 so was there 4 the force, it seemed
2 like gambling up 2 the £15 but not the
£20(which is a bit of a pig as an xtra
gamble is involved) it cost 50 to break
the 15 which gave the top 4 £85! couldnt
believe it after the 75, the only 2 pieces
left were 2 fivers and it gave them...
No doubt i'm gonna have some bad times
on these but was a nice introduction

MATT99 · Post by **MATT99** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:50 pm

i had 85 top twice before so i like the machine alot lol !!!