Is this how it's going to be?

Alpine021 · Post by **Alpine021** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:11 am

If this is a sign for things to come on present profiles it's really not looking good.

Was £20 into a £70 Hi Lo today.

Red, gambling to £15 and cashpot upto £16. Could u ask for more?

Well £95 - flat £70. Still playing well.

Took the £70 back and another £20. Flat again.

Took this £70 back plus another £20. Flat again. Left it.

So is £10 not "as big" of a block? Same with cashpot? If I got the above signs on a £35 you would be expecting around a £30 profit.

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:20 am

was it exch?? they can go past a tenner and be nowhere near on the 35's...u said playing well after....if its just a tenner ready then...wel...

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:20 am

I've had a cashpot up to £18 first board on a £35 and cost £130 odd for a top, ended up around £30 down so not the end of the world, i've also lost on a few £35 hilos that were stupidly ready but just would not give the top, i've been £150+ in a few times and took a few £50 odd losses when i've thought i'm on a guaranteed earner, sometimes they just refuse to repeat, nothing but £35 tops that are costing £40-£70 to get, you just end up digging a deeper hole.

Still not seen one on £70 so don't know.

Alpine021 · Post by **Alpine021** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:33 am

When I say playing well it was 6 or 7 reds so not totally still redding and still upto £10. but even so £95 for a top?

If it was the end of some1s streak then as with £35s u would expect to get a top for less than £70.

As for £35s that are past £10 I've only ever lost on one or two that have gone past. The £10 block on them is possibly the biggest block on any red I can think of. You just know it's going to kill u 95% of the time.

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:44 am

well not red after...you cant moan...why should u expect a top...??

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:52 am

sounds like im being all high n mighty thinking i know best, but this seems quite obvious, it wasn't red after and not past a tenner, yet you rechased...you should have knocked it on the head and hoped for better next time..

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:56 am

Yeah agree with crosby, what an earth are you talking about? you cant expect profit everytime you play one, it werent red so wtf!! i really dont get this post!

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:26 pm

Alpine021 wrote:When I say playing well it was 6 or 7 reds so not totally still redding and still upto £10. but even so £95 for a top?

Sounds nothing crazy to me lol...6 or 7 reds means absolutely nothing anyway.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:09 pm

any red that has 12 features ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 9 is redding ,,,,,,,,,, and nothing nothing less.

we have all had 70/105 tops ,,,,,,,,,, and off remaining credits seen 7 or 8 , means absolutely fuck all.

ob · Post by ob » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:51 pm

Sometimes hilos on 35 go to £15 randomly, very rare, but it doesn't go back, just puts the £10 block on. Incidentally if you ever have taken red toggle gamble, its usually £15 not £10.

As said before 6/7 reds is as good a sign as 1 red...

8 is usually ok with these, although not 100%

Slammer · Post by **Slammer** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:59 pm

trayhop123 wrote:any red that has 12 features ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 9 is redding ,,,,,,,,,, and nothing nothing less.

we have all had 70/105 tops ,,,,,,,,,, and off remaining credits seen 7 or 8 , means absolutely fuck all.

Absolute twaddle. :LOL:

7/8 reds on a EARLY program £35 hilo, meant it was there for another punt, guaranteed.

7 reds on a £70 hilo means its anywhere between £1 and £110 anyway.

Usual rules apply, when counting the number of reds of course...

anfield road · Post by **anfield road** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:16 pm

trayhop123 wrote:any red that has 12 features ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 9 is redding ,,,,,,,,,, and nothing nothing less.

we have all had 70/105 tops ,,,,,,,,,, and off remaining credits seen 7 or 8 , means absolutely fuck all.

Yeah precisly there are a few things you are missing clearly. bet your on wrong stake etc

Alpine021 · Post by **Alpine021** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:21 pm

What? I've been playing £35 Hi los since they first came out and if all the above signs were there I would not be stopping and very rarely losing from doing so.

So say it's a £35 and all the above signs and it cost me £60 for £35 (about the same ratio) I would not be stopping ever regardless of whether it seemed to still be "there" or not. Which has been profitable a good 90% of the time.

So what in the above situation if its not red after it's cost loads for a top which is flat you have walked? If so u've left a whole loads of value in the long run.

I appreciate u can't win all the time but if it's flying and costs considerably more than JP walking is a sin. If it cost £70 for a £70 then dead I could understand ur arguement.

so lets get this straight u try a few more boards - playing well but not completely redding u walk and go "oh well better luck next time?" and walk off about £40 down?

I've made an absolute fortune out of these and by playing on u either normally get another quick £35 or it takes back a fair bit and does a £70 so u r either even (and can walk) or a bit up. Or if it takes a lot back and does a flat u can still carry on and should be fine.

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:35 pm

yes but these are 70's....
yawn....

you are saying they r red to begin, go flat, of course theres another one...

but with 70's they dont need to be...they dont repeat like 35's

Alpine021 · Post by **Alpine021** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:45 pm

Ah ok.

But that was my main point. It wasn't a statement about £70s it was more of a question.

I haven't played enough of them yet but if they go dead after costing so much for a JP when seemingly flying this will be more of a slog than a job.