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Barcrest Hopper problem

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:59 pm
by Brian69
My first post.

Hi I have just got my first 2 barcrest machines that needed repairing. I have got them both to work apart from the 'Make a Mint' (MPU4) is Ok until it needs to pay out, then you get an alarm and a hopper jam message. Check all the wires, it moves freely when pushed and turns when a current is put through it. Any Ideas?

The other one (Supercharged) is fine apart from it is in freeplay (MPU5). How do you change this to coin operated. Also is there a way to slow the reels? In the instruction manual for the other one it tells you how, but not in the manual for this one.
Thanks Brian

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:45 am
by aaamusements.co.uk
Did you get the hopper issue sorted in the end?

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:47 am
by Brian69
aaamusements.co.uk wrote:Did you get the hopper issue sorted in the end?
No still will not work. tried .a replacement hopper, but I will not operate either. When it goes to pay out the alarm goes off and it says hoper jam. It will not operate with the button to empty the float either.

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:43 am
by 6502
Brian69 wrote:No still will not work. tried .a replacement hopper, but I will not operate either. When it goes to pay out the alarm goes off and it says hoper jam. It will not operate with the button to empty the float either.
MPU4 = very old,
have you taken the cover off the board and checked for battery damage etc ??
common prob on these old mpu, battery leaks and the 'acid' rots the board tracks arround the payout triacks and display components (IIRR)

Thank you

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:35 pm
by Brian69
Thank you I did not know that the board has a battery I will check that, Brian

Yes you are correct

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:06 pm
by Brian69
[quote="6502"]MPU4 = very old,
have you taken the cover off the board and checked for battery damage etc ??
common prob on these old mpu, battery leaks and the 'acid' rots the board tracks arround the payout triacks and display components (IIRR)[/QUOT

I have done that and you are correct about the circuit being damaged. I will let you know if it is repairable. Where do you get a new battery from

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:21 am
by 6502
Ebay, item number 280643767721 looks right to me
but you will probably need to clean up any crap on the mpu (vinagar+water) and repairing any danaged components on the mpu,
more info on the mecca (circuit diagrams and detaild advice etc)

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:30 am
by 6502
just googled and found this
http://89.240.8.167:8080/page43.html

Thank you.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:27 pm
by Brian69
6502 wrote:just googled and found this
http://89.240.8.167:8080/page43.html
Thank you for your help with both circuits and battery. I will take a look, thanks again
Brian

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:02 pm
by lee
Have you not checked the hopper driver board,I think the mpu 4 driver board has some fuses on,could one of them become slack in their holder or has it blown

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:37 pm
by aaamusements.co.uk
6502 wrote:just googled and found this
http://89.240.8.167:8080/page43.html
That site is a great resource for fixing fruit machines, and I know Paul personally - he's a good bloke.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:26 pm
by Brian69
lee wrote:Have you not checked the hopper driver board,I think the mpu 4 driver board has some fuses on,could one of them become slack in their holder or has it blown
Is this a separate board and if so where or is it part of the 4MPU?

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:29 pm
by lee
It's a separate board and is usually fastened to the back of the cabinet below the mpu

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:11 am
by Brian69
lee wrote:It's a separate board and is usually fastened to the back of the cabinet below the mpu
Yes found that, the fuses are OK. Thank you.

Circuit Board

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:03 pm
by Brian69
Here is a picture of the Circuit board. How do you fix the damage to the tracks? apart from that not too much damage.