Barcrest Monty Python Problem, Coin Mech related?

rosss2000 · Post by **rosss2000** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:59 pm

Hi there i recently purchased Monty python club fruit machine (awesome fruit machine). The problem i have is that i filled the hopper up with £300, once the money comes out of the hopper for a win, it does not go back in and drops into the cash box

Not a massive problem but will eventually run out of money.

I have checked on this forum before and have seen similar posts about the routing plug - i checked this and it seems ok but am not 100% sure how to test if this is the problem?

The coin mech is mars and the main board says MPU5 - could it be this that the mech is broken as its almost like its not telling the £1 to go back into the hopper, and instead drops into the cash flow boxes at the bottom.

The 20ps seem to work ok

Any help would be very much appreciated

Thanks again for all your help

Ross

aaamusements.co.uk · Post by **aaamusements.co.uk** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:13 pm

Did you do a hopper dump before you refilled? This will make certain the machine knows exactly where it is starting from.

rosss2000 · Post by **rosss2000** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:42 pm

Thanks for your quick reply

Hi there, yes i did a hopper dump it dumped £300, then said to dump excess which i did then i refilled it with the £300 and pressed the "hoppers refilled" button. I think this is the right way to do it.

Also not sure if relevant but the 20p hopper was filled and then reset, and the 20ps keep going into it, and dont seem to drop to the cash box at the bottom? Should they do this?

Thanks again

Ross

Captain.Tattybojangles · Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:34 pm

Pressing "Hoppers Refilled" or "Hoppers Topped Up" or any equivalent will make the machine think the hopper is full, therefore any coins would be directed into the cashbox.
Do you have a refill key?
What I would suggest(arduous as it is) is to dump the hopper, insert the coins through the Mech on refill mode, but only fill, say, 100 of them, or the jackpot equivalent. It is going to take a lot more money than it is going to pay out anyway, so why not play the money through instead of fully refill?
My machine was annoying like this. In the end, it took a hopper dump via refill mode(Press HOPPER DUMP switch by the cashboxes with refill key turned) to get it straight again.
I wouldnt know for sure where the hopper dump switch is on your machine though I am afraid, as my machine is in a different cabinet. I am making an estimate though.

6502 · Post by **6502** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:54 pm

Why not use the test routine to test the routing of coins?

thats what its there for !!

Then if they are diverting correctly in test it must be a float related thing,
If it don't switch the routes in test then it's mech related

RTFM.

rosss2000 · Post by **rosss2000** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:19 am

"What I would suggest(arduous as it is) is to dump the hopper, insert the coins through the Mech on refill mode, but only fill, say, 100 of them, or the jackpot equivalent. It is going to take a lot more money than it is going to pay out anyway, so why not play the money through instead of fully refill? "

Ok i checked balance with refill key, was at £300, so i won £10, then manually refilled - the problem is each one i put in manually dropped to the bottom and not in the hopper itself. Although the meter went up to £300 after £10, and then stopped accepting. Does this mean its the mech?

I used the test but could only spit out 20ps and £1s? This works ok but not sure what else i could do with the test except dump the hopper.

Basically whatever i do i cant seem to get the hopper refilled

Any ideas people and again thanks for all your help

Thanks

Ross

rosss2000 · Post by **rosss2000** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:19 pm

Right ok , i just tried emptying the hopper using the test mode, It counted £300 out. Then i checked hopper balance with the refill key and it still says £300.

When i play and win say a £10, the refill key does say £290, but when dumping it it does not seem to adjust it to £0?

Whatever happens it seems impossible to get the £1 into the hopper, is it worth buying and trying a new coin mech?

Thanks people

Ross

aaamusements.co.uk · Post by **aaamusements.co.uk** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:34 pm

rosss2000 wrote:Right ok , i just tried emptying the hopper using the test mode, It counted £300 out. Then i checked hopper balance with the refill key and it still says £300.

When i play and win say a £10, the refill key does say £290, but when dumping it it does not seem to adjust it to £0?

Whatever happens it seems impossible to get the £1 into the hopper, is it worth buying and trying a new coin mech?

Thanks people

Ross

It means that £300 is needed to refill the hopper - not that there is £300 in the hopper. So it's correct.
Have you checked routing yet? This is likely to be the issue.

rosss2000 · Post by **rosss2000** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:44 pm

Sorry am confused now, as if i put the refill key in, and put £1s in the balance goes up plus £1 each time?

Not sure what to check on the routing?

aaamusements.co.uk · Post by **aaamusements.co.uk** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:11 pm

rosss2000 wrote:Sorry am confused now, as if i put the refill key in, and put £1s in the balance goes up plus £1 each time?

Right yes just reread form the start, MPU5 so the refill will display what's in the hopper not what's needed to refill. Sorry.

It's very odd if you are doing a full hopper dump and it still thinks the hopper is full.
Try clearing the ram, by momentarily shorting out the battery (putting a piece of wire from the negative side to the positive side for a millisecond).

rosss2000 · Post by **rosss2000** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:19 pm

"Try clearing the ram, by momentarily shorting out the battery (putting a piece of wire from the negative side to the positive side for a millisecond).
"

Tried this and now it doesnt work at all

2 red lights and 12 green which i believe is a battery problem, will just buy a new board me thinks - lol

Thanks for all your help anyways

Ross

rosss2000 · Post by **rosss2000** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:22 pm

Ok quick update

Got a new MPU5 board today, plugged in works ok but still the same problem, lol

The £1s do not go into the hopper, and the 20ps only go into the hopper and do not drop down

Could this be a simple router plug issue, does this control this please?

aaamusements.co.uk · Post by **aaamusements.co.uk** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:30 pm

If the new board behaves exactly the same than yes, it's definitely a routing problem.
The plug isn't in backwards is it?

rosss2000 · Post by **rosss2000** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:13 am

Hi there, not that i can see, it only goes in one way by the looks of it

Will check again and thanks again for your help

Does anyone know where i can check the routing plug is plugged in correctly?