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Stupid people gambling
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:59 pm
by Cardinal Sin
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... _confusion
A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.
The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.
To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.
But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.
Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.
The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
"I think Camelot are giving people the wrong impression - the card doesn't say to look for a colder or warmer temperature, it says to look for a higher or lower number. Six is a lower number than 8. Imagine how many people have been misled."
A Camelot spokeswoman said the game was withdrawn after reports that some players had not understood the concept.
She said: "The instructions for playing the Cool Cash scratchcard are clear - and are printed on each individual card and in the game procedures available at each retailer. However, because of the potential for player confusion we have decided to withdraw the game."
More than 15m adults in Britain have poor numeracy - the equivalent of a G or below at GCSE maths
Almost three times as many UK adults (15.1m) have poor numeracy - the equivalent of a G or below at GCSE maths - than with poor literacy skills, according to the government's Skills for Life survey.
Peter Hall, of the Association of Teachers of Mathematics, said: "The concept of minus numbers is something we would cover with 11 or 12 year olds, and we would expect them to have come across it before.
"The concept of smaller numbers is something that some people do seem to struggle with. Seven is clearly smaller than eight, so they focus on that and don't really see the minus sign. There is also a subtle difference in language between smaller - or lower - and colder. The number zero feels lower.
"There have always been some people who find numbers and basic mathematics difficult. Maybe in the past it was less noticeable because people could find jobs they could excel in without having qualifications in maths."
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"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it. "

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:01 pm
by Mattb
For fuck sake. Some people really are thick as mince aren't they. If you can't even fathom how a temperature scale works then you've got problems. They might as well have an extra scratch off box with WIN or LOSE in it for muppets like these.
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:29 pm
by Istenem
tina farrell is marginally less intelligent than a glass of water
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:46 pm
by Nixxy
If you go to the original article, and click the 'View Comments' link, there're some amusing posts to be found:
S P In exile, Tameside 3/11/2007 at 19:19 wrote:I think we all should ask for a tax rebate because it was obviously wasted trying to educate her..
The Horse, Cheadle 3/11/2007 at 19:23 wrote:I think Ms Farrell should be made to go back to junior school where the rest of the population learnt how to measure the temperature.
Sarah Ives 3/11/2007 at 18:16 wrote:HAHA! Oh my, how that made me laugh. They were trying to fob her off with proven mathematical rules that are taught to 11 and 12 year olds. Well as she didn't leave with a Maths GCSE to begin we can't blame the education system for trying.
S Tockport, near the window 5/11/2007 at 09:50 wrote: I think she is quite within her right to claim a prize. Give her the -£5,000 now.
Thanks for sharing this gem of an article with us, Cardinal!
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:15 am
by Cardinal Sin
Nice one Nixxy .... I always like to see sarcasm and the piss getting ripped out of stupid people (or more precisely, stupid people who don't even realise they're stupid).
A similar article appeared in the South Wales Argus. It subsequently got pulled, but I found it cached on Google.
A NEWPORT man has blasted Camelot for "misleading" people into thinking they had won large sums of money.
Three local women believed they had won over £30,000 between them on the Cool Cash range of scratchcards that have since been withdrawn from shops.
Colin Symonds, 42 of Weare Close, Bettws who is chairman for a local community group received an excited call from his wife Pauline, 35 proclaiming she had won £10,000 on a card bought at the Four Buoys Newsagent in Bettws on Thursday.
Mrs Symonds believed that a temperature lower than the given figure of 12 degrees must be scratched to win prizes. She revealed a nine, 10, 11 and 10 on one card believing this put her in the money.
However, a worker at the Four Buoys chain where the cards were bought said: "Some people who bought the cards assumed it would be a plus scale, but it is not, it's a minus scale meaning that -11 isn't a lower temperature than -12.
"I had to read it several times myself as it's a very good play on words and can be very misleading.'"
Along with Mrs Symonds, her sister Julie Tillier, 39 of Ringland and neighbour Pauline Miller, 59 also thought they'd won sums over £10,000, which left Mr Symonds fuming.
He said: "This is very misleading. Imagine the effect it could have on an 87-year-old who's penniless and thinks she's won only to be told they won't pay out?
"It's only two months from Christmas and how dare they let people think they have won large sums."
The range had been on sale for the past week.
A spokesman for Camelot said: "The instructions for playing Cool Cash are clear and are printed on each individual card. However, because of the potential for player confusion, we have decided to withdraw the game."
"Imagine the effect it could have on an 87 year old who's penniless?".
Well what the fook is she buying scratchcards for?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:51 am
by Nixxy
It just gets worse doesn't it ...
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:09 pm
by harry 3
Please complete...............
Can you read?
No
Yes
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Do you read?
Never
Yes
Do comic books count?
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Do people call you oafish?
No
All the time
Huh?
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What about vacuous?
No
Yes
What does that mean?
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A plane crashes on the United States - Canada border. Where are the survivors buried?
Depends on nationality
Canada
United States
Mexico
They aren't
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How many planets are in this solar system?
Five
Seven
Eight
Nine
Ten
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Jan is twice as old as her sister Betty, but half of Joe's age. Betty just got married. How old is Joe most likely to be?
8
16
44
60
84
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Look at your computer time. Is it correct?
No
Yes
To within a second!
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How many F's are in the following sentence:
OFTEN, FISH FIND FOOD AFTER FIFTY YEARS OF SWIMMING THE CHANNEL OF RALPH.
Five
Six
Seven
Eight
Nine
Ten
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What is the sum of integers from 1 to 10?
11
35
50
55
57
101
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How did you figure out the last problem?
Guessed
Wrote it out on paper
In my head
A calculator
The 'Gauss' method
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Cat is to Dog, as Snake is to ...
Grasshopper
Dog
Alligator
Grass
Bird
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How much dirt is in a 2m x 2m x 2m hole in the ground?
A lot
None
8m
8m3
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Which of the following is least like the others
Cucumber
Carrot
Tomato
Apple
Watermelon
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If you were called perspicacious, how would you feel?
Insulted
Hurt
Neutral
That means sexual, right?
Complimented
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How many times is it possible to fold a newspaper in half?
Once
Twice
About 3-4 times
About 5 or 6 times
Just over 6 times
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When you talk, what do others around you do?
Listen
Run
Pick their nose
Completely agree with you
Argue back
Call you stupid
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What colour is at the bottom of a rainbow?
Violet
Red
Blue
Green
Orange
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An electric train is moving north at 100kph and a wind is blowing to the west at 10kph. Which way does the smoke blow?
North
Northwest
West
South
Nowhere
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A farmer has 20 sheep, and all but 15 die. How many sheep are left?
Five
Ten
Fifteen
Twenty
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How do batteries work?
Electrochemical Reaction
Isothermal Convection
Magic
Electromotive Reduction
Miniature hamsters on a wheel
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You are told to take a pill every hour. You have 3 pills. How long before they are all gone?
1 hour
2 hours
3 hours
4 hours
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What is Antarctica?
A country
A state/province
A continent
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Which side is your left hand on when looking at your mirror image?
Left
Right
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What is the next number in this sequence:
0, 2, 4, 6, 8, ...
9
10
11
16
20
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What about this sequence
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, ...
5
6
7
8
9
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Without looking, what is the second question that you answered?
How old are you
Do you feel stupid?
Boy? Girl?
Can you read?
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FYI, you get a nifty graphic to share with others at the end of the test.
If you end up being totally stupid will you show the graphic?
Yes
No
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:43 pm
by theoak
harry2 wrote:
Can you read?
Yes
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Do you read?
Do newspapers count?
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Do people call you oafish?
No
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What about vacuous?
No
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A plane crashes on the United States - Canada border. Where are the survivors buried?
They aren't
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How many planets are in this solar system?
Eight
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Jan is twice as old as her sister Betty, but half of Joe's age. Betty just got married. How old is Joe most likely to be?
44
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Look at your computer time. Is it correct?
Yes
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How many F's are in the following sentence:
Eight
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What is the sum of integers from 1 to 10?
55
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How did you figure out the last problem?
In my head
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Cat is to Dog, as Snake is to ...
Bird
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How much dirt is in a 2m x 2m x 2m hole in the ground?
8m3
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Which of the following is least like the others
Carrot
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If you were called perspicacious, how would you feel?
Complimented
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How many times is it possible to fold a newspaper in half?
About 3-4 times
wouldnt it depend on the size of the newspaper and the number of pages?
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When you talk, what do others around you do?
Completely agree with you
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What colour is at the bottom of a rainbow?
Violet
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An electric train is moving north at 100kph and a wind is blowing to the west at 10kph. Which way does the smoke blow?
There isnt any
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A farmer has 20 sheep, and all but 15 die. How many sheep are left?
Fifteen
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How do batteries work?
Electrochemical Reaction
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You are told to take a pill every hour. You have 3 pills. How long before they are all gone?
1 hour
2 hours
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What is Antarctica?
A continent
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Which side is your left hand on when looking at your mirror image?
Left
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the next number in this sequence:
0, 2, 4, 6, 8, ...
10
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What about this sequence
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, ...
8
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Without looking, what is the second question that you answered?
Can you read?
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FYI, you get a nifty graphic to share with others at the end of the test.
If you end up being totally stupid will you show the graphic?
No
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:44 pm
by theoak
I did it cos I felt like it, dunno about the battery and newspaper one; hope I didnt get any others wrong but probably WAS stupid in a couple of them. I see the 'which question was second' isnt even listed in the options..
oh, and the pills one should say '2 hours' but i dont want it to say i edited it after i did it

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:20 pm
by Cardinal Sin
You might want to have a look at your answer for the "how much dirt is in a hole in the ground" question

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:44 pm
by harry 3
Reminds me of the old question.
If it takes ten men ten days to dig ten holes how long does it take one man to dig half a hole ?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:47 pm
by theoak
Cardinal Richelieu wrote:You might want to have a look at your answer for the "how much dirt is in a hole in the ground" question
haha, in my head I thought someone had filled the hole with dirt. eg: how much water would there be in a 2x2x2 meter hole in the ground. bah...
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:50 pm
by Matt Vinyl
This is just brilliant! The level of intelligence some people are at never fails to amaze me...
...Reminds me of a 'useful' quote someone once told me:
If you have two different numbers, one is always bigger...
Amazing how many people can't see that.
Oh, and...
Four Buoys
Even the article can't get the name of a well known 'newsy' correct!

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:02 pm
by harry 3
http://www.stupidtester.com/
This is a US site.
Which river flows into the sea at Bournemouth ?
Substitute
Teignmouth
Dartmouth
Lossiemouth etc.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:10 pm
by Cardinal Sin
(apologies to Phoneix-goers who will be sick of the sight of this).
That all reminds of a question I heard in a pub quiz once "Where is the body of St. Edmund buried?"
Everyone in the pub looks outraged at the sheer impossibility of that question.
The answer was, of course, Bury St Edmunds.