3 player Casino Monop crooked %

JG · Post by JG » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:05 am

50p stake. 86%. I'm sure it's not meeting and I'm sure there are issues with GGGs and CMs on this 50p stake. 30p is safe. 50p is dodgy as fook.

Anyone taken one on which isn't too lively, thereby punting a few £100 through and had the same sort of experience? I'm not talking Yarmouth's finest rig chips, but supposedly friendly big chain chips.

You know the score, you play through £500, it takes say £120 to start hoofling, you get a phat rep (eventually), two * hoompfs and a good run down and you're a 1.5'er down. It says 86% Where did £80 of % go to? I got my fair share of pretty much everything, where's my %?

Come on share. Surely someone else has had this?

If they can't sort out issues with hold continuity, is it so hard to believe that there are unintentional % issues?

aaamusements.co.uk · Post by **aaamusements.co.uk** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:06 am

It might take 1000 or so plays to average out though...

petera · Post by **petera** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:15 am

This is the standard answer when the question is asked in an arcade
Its based over 1000's of plays
But no one can ever be precise
Does anyone actually know the true figures ?

Lugsy ?

JG · Post by JG » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:23 am

1000 plays is £500, approximately what was played through it. These games are based heavily on pots. I've played £100000000s through 'em. I feel I'm in a good position to detect an anomaly.

It's only on certain chips. Some have a 30p button and a 50p button. Others have a change stake button and start button. These are safe. Standalones are safe. It's some variants of the 30p/50p combo that are dubious in my opinion. Only on 50p stake. 30p is still sound.

This company don't do a full reset on fresh installation anyway. Machine has been around for ages. Basically I'm getting out more than my fair share of value and it's still minimum % payback. These games are Vividesque. You wouldn't out £90 in a £10 naturally happy Pie Factory to force jackpot and not ask questions.

Definitely an unintentional (imo) crooked chip. Maybe JG being paranoid. More opinions, chuck 'em in pro and against. Ta.

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:26 am

There's loads of fucked chips for these, i remember playing propably about £250 worth's of credits through one and only getting one hold and drop fiver and i think one nudge in fiver how wrong is that.

JG · Post by JG » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:31 am

There we are you see, for £250 you would expect six holds for a blue minimum! Ditto nudge. They can hold it back, but it soon averages out. Very soon. One nudge for bloop in £250 is seriously fooked. Never seen one that bad. Been skanked on blue value a couple of times. Knocked back loads once and when it came to payback, about three £5s then nowt. Not a sausage. I feel sure there are crook chips out there. Can't make %. Any more pro/against?

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:51 am

i've had my suspicions for years on a lot of machines with long term percentages that seem unmeetable by their gameplay,i don't have experience of 50p ggg's however ,but would trust j.g's diagnosis being as he is the top,top, top boy on them,except for maybe one chinese lad.

as for the answer to the question, people are always vague when you put it to them ,i would expect a percentage to be met over at least 10,000 pounds through,i get this figure by processing several vague answers to clearly put questions i have asked "industry" guys over the years.

spa · Post by **spa** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:13 am

Been stung hard twice on a GGG. Both times god knows how many credits through and zero fivers held in at the end, when I was expecting about 7!

At least on the £25er version you got bars/heads 9/10 on the winline, sometimes more than once even twice but on a £35? Lol, about 2/10 for me.

pager · Post by **pager** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:16 am

They have this one here in the Showboat.Seems to eat the credits on 50p stake and not really give alot more on the streak than on 30p stake.
Needless to say when and if I ever play it its always on the 30p and after some money has gone through it before me.

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:52 pm

mr lugsy wrote:i've had my suspicions for years on a lot of machines with long term percentages that seem unmeetable by their gameplay,i don't have experience of 50p ggg's however ,but would trust j.g's diagnosis being as he is the top,top, top boy on them,except for maybe one chinese lad.

as for the answer to the question, people are always vague when you put it to them ,i would expect a percentage to be met over at least 10,000 pounds through,i get this figure by processing several vague answers to clearly put questions i have asked "industry" guys over the years.

Chinese bloke? your not talking about that fag from bristol are ya? Gala's were phat before he started playing in them, i remember going on a few PMK and Pickareel Gala runs and everyone you wernt to was garunteed to be ready and when one was ready you couldn't really not make in there.

pickareel · Post by **pickareel** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:56 am

makes me laugh,played a set of monops in a gala on 86% 25jp.and there is no way they were on 86%,hold n drop 5ers should be 40-50 apart in credits and not 70-80,blatent rock 70% awful holds

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:19 am

About evry £30 init?

pickareel · Post by **pickareel** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:27 am

every 30?fook me which ones are you playing?the ones around the norfold coast are certainly not 30s

logopolis · Post by **logopolis** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:32 am

On a £5 jp Golden Game most probably.

psxcity · Post by **psxcity** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:00 am

86% is over 10,000 pays but its not a true reflection,,
its not 86% paid out. its 86% offered ie you win £5 gamble and lose. the £5 it offered goes towards the 86% even though you didnt get it