Said a while back that my laying career is going to begin, hasn't really happened due to lack of start up funds. Continued backing without any success, and its got to the point now where everything I have financially is going to go into laying.
Everything I back is fucking crap. Cant even remember the last winner i had and its been like this forever.. Cannot possibly lose laying.. With a big enough start up amount, it is simply not possible to lose
Gambling is killing me, and probably will kill me
one things for sure I am never going to have kids to put them through the SHIT that life is...
School was SHIT
College was SHIT
Working is the biggest load of SHIT
life throws up very few good moments, and at the end of the day we all die.
hardly any other way to describe life is there... its SHIT.
School was SHIT
College was SHIT
Working is the biggest load of SHIT
life throws up very few good moments, and at the end of the day we all die.
hardly any other way to describe life is there... its SHIT.
boom
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Ok i'll just summise your 5 figure sum is £10,000.
A very simple staking system to use is bet say 1% of your bank, at the moment for you that would be around £100 not huge i know but as you slowly build your bank that stake increases.
If you want to lay a horse/team etc instead of back it, your liability becomes the stake so your liability at the moment would be around £100 for a lay.
Making just 1% per day starting with £10,000 you can turn £10,000 into over £350,000 in a year. Of course as the bank gets bigger the stakes get higher and some people lose their nerve when they're betting larger amounts, but again thats down to you.
When you bet a percentage of your bank that also means if/when you lose a bet and your bank decreases your next bet will be less than your previous one which does stop you chasing. Of course only if you stick to the rules.
Good luck anyway mate and keep us posted on how you are getting on if you do go ahead with it.
A very simple staking system to use is bet say 1% of your bank, at the moment for you that would be around £100 not huge i know but as you slowly build your bank that stake increases.
If you want to lay a horse/team etc instead of back it, your liability becomes the stake so your liability at the moment would be around £100 for a lay.
Making just 1% per day starting with £10,000 you can turn £10,000 into over £350,000 in a year. Of course as the bank gets bigger the stakes get higher and some people lose their nerve when they're betting larger amounts, but again thats down to you.
When you bet a percentage of your bank that also means if/when you lose a bet and your bank decreases your next bet will be less than your previous one which does stop you chasing. Of course only if you stick to the rules.
Good luck anyway mate and keep us posted on how you are getting on if you do go ahead with it.
I don't like to be the bringer of doom and I'm not a horse racing man. However surely there is a link between not being able to pick a winner and being able to pick a loser?
£377,834 Just multiplied £10,000*1.01 365 times and I could not believe it at first but if you have a method to make 1% every day for a year, from the £10,000 bankroll, well there you go, as Keno said. However if your liability is £100/day and you're looking to make your £100 from that, then it's pretty likely you'll be paying out something at some point, whatever if it's taking 10*£10 bets at 9-1(10.0) or one £100 bet at 1-1(2.0). Sorry if this is bollocks, but I'm not much of a betting man. Needless to say, any blips and your little compound interest orgy soon deflates. To make it viable or 'business like' it isn't too much of a stab in the dark for me to say you'd be putting in huge passion and hours studying your chosen field.
Whatever you do, please, without being all horribly patronising take care and remember the old gambling adage. Only gamble.....etc etc blah blah. Maybe you can afford to lose the money, but can you afford to live with the feelings that come with losing money? That's the real crunch question. Money in its most empirical form is just bits of metal and paper. Bits of metal and paper are not as tasty as a McDonald's cheeseburger, but what'd you rather have - 10k or a chessburger? Sorry typo, that's not Boris Spassky in a sesame seed bun, cheeseburger obviously.
Do they serve chessburgers in Reykjavik(*) McDs?
(*) the ks, ys and js and vs are probably all mixed up.
So bottom line, will the heartache and stress be worth it? Obviously yes if you win and no if you don't? Less obvious, can you afford the stress and heartache? Only you in your heart of hearts will know that and if you feel the answer is no, then you have to rethink strategies and I'm talking holistically, not just within the gambling world.
Gambling's a horrible soul destroying, friend losing, personality mutating dark dark thing in its most evil form. On this forum we've all flirted with it to various degrees and hopefully understand the beast within for what it's worth.
Then there's always the old chicken egg that brain chemical balances may lead to behaviours such as gambling. I'm no psychiatrist, but I'd suggest taking up squash, boxing or quad biking depending on the nature of things. You've also got the mountains, but melancholy (we're talking bi-polar aspects of the appreciative spectrum, disregarding nature's aesthetically induced energy rushes) beauty may need one of the above to increase dopaminergic transmission and regulate serotonin synaptic throughput.
A quick dose of clay pigeon shooting and a healthy steak and ale pie afterwards is also another good one. Make sure it's proper double barrelled shot guns and not some puffy air pistol.
What you need is mind buggering noise and two barrells. Yell "PULL" at the top of your lungs blast out those rounds and feel the gun push into you twice in quick succession as you blast those fucking pieces of composite wotsit into touch.
After the clay pigeon shooting do some quad biking, romp around the countryside scaring cows and whooping.
Then maybe the squash, start with the slow spot and a weak opponent and whack the hell out of that ball.
Leave off the boxing. I'm getting cold feet about the boxing. It's a bit violent even with the head guard and gum shield. Maybe some martial arts at a low level, with out of shape people who don't want to hurt you.
After the boxing go for a cycle ride in the country, but be careful of thorns as there is nothing worse than getting a puncture and all the feckin' glue in the puncture repair kit has dried up and you have to walk home.
After the cycling, maybe a few cans, but don't go silly and watch the sporting round ups for the day.
Be careful of playing the wrong Oasis songs, don't look back in anger is in a minor key and may cause depression. Try, and this is risky, Sunday Morning call which is reassuring, then a bit of She's Electric, the someMorning Glory, All around the world and round it up with 'You're free to do whatever you want....".
Then go to sleep, drink plenty of water before bed to avoid dehydration and refocus and start from there.
I think this information is roughly correct at time of printing.
If you do do the horce racing thing then I think H, rook and keno are yer men to ask. May be others. Don't ask me. I can't even spell horse properly.
£377,834 Just multiplied £10,000*1.01 365 times and I could not believe it at first but if you have a method to make 1% every day for a year, from the £10,000 bankroll, well there you go, as Keno said. However if your liability is £100/day and you're looking to make your £100 from that, then it's pretty likely you'll be paying out something at some point, whatever if it's taking 10*£10 bets at 9-1(10.0) or one £100 bet at 1-1(2.0). Sorry if this is bollocks, but I'm not much of a betting man. Needless to say, any blips and your little compound interest orgy soon deflates. To make it viable or 'business like' it isn't too much of a stab in the dark for me to say you'd be putting in huge passion and hours studying your chosen field.
Whatever you do, please, without being all horribly patronising take care and remember the old gambling adage. Only gamble.....etc etc blah blah. Maybe you can afford to lose the money, but can you afford to live with the feelings that come with losing money? That's the real crunch question. Money in its most empirical form is just bits of metal and paper. Bits of metal and paper are not as tasty as a McDonald's cheeseburger, but what'd you rather have - 10k or a chessburger? Sorry typo, that's not Boris Spassky in a sesame seed bun, cheeseburger obviously.
Do they serve chessburgers in Reykjavik(*) McDs?
(*) the ks, ys and js and vs are probably all mixed up.
So bottom line, will the heartache and stress be worth it? Obviously yes if you win and no if you don't? Less obvious, can you afford the stress and heartache? Only you in your heart of hearts will know that and if you feel the answer is no, then you have to rethink strategies and I'm talking holistically, not just within the gambling world.
Gambling's a horrible soul destroying, friend losing, personality mutating dark dark thing in its most evil form. On this forum we've all flirted with it to various degrees and hopefully understand the beast within for what it's worth.
Then there's always the old chicken egg that brain chemical balances may lead to behaviours such as gambling. I'm no psychiatrist, but I'd suggest taking up squash, boxing or quad biking depending on the nature of things. You've also got the mountains, but melancholy (we're talking bi-polar aspects of the appreciative spectrum, disregarding nature's aesthetically induced energy rushes) beauty may need one of the above to increase dopaminergic transmission and regulate serotonin synaptic throughput.
A quick dose of clay pigeon shooting and a healthy steak and ale pie afterwards is also another good one. Make sure it's proper double barrelled shot guns and not some puffy air pistol.
What you need is mind buggering noise and two barrells. Yell "PULL" at the top of your lungs blast out those rounds and feel the gun push into you twice in quick succession as you blast those fucking pieces of composite wotsit into touch.
After the clay pigeon shooting do some quad biking, romp around the countryside scaring cows and whooping.
Then maybe the squash, start with the slow spot and a weak opponent and whack the hell out of that ball.
Leave off the boxing. I'm getting cold feet about the boxing. It's a bit violent even with the head guard and gum shield. Maybe some martial arts at a low level, with out of shape people who don't want to hurt you.
After the boxing go for a cycle ride in the country, but be careful of thorns as there is nothing worse than getting a puncture and all the feckin' glue in the puncture repair kit has dried up and you have to walk home.
After the cycling, maybe a few cans, but don't go silly and watch the sporting round ups for the day.
Be careful of playing the wrong Oasis songs, don't look back in anger is in a minor key and may cause depression. Try, and this is risky, Sunday Morning call which is reassuring, then a bit of She's Electric, the someMorning Glory, All around the world and round it up with 'You're free to do whatever you want....".
Then go to sleep, drink plenty of water before bed to avoid dehydration and refocus and start from there.
I think this information is roughly correct at time of printing.
If you do do the horce racing thing then I think H, rook and keno are yer men to ask. May be others. Don't ask me. I can't even spell horse properly.
Laying horses is more difficult than betting horses. I used to price up races myself and put the odds up on Betfair first thing in the morning to about a 105% book. You can be sure of one thing. The triers were laid and the lesser horses would remain unlaid and drift even further. You then either have to punt back the laid horses at a smaller price or take a chance and letting them run. Over time you would definitely lose. There are too many shrewdies around to make money on mainstream sports betting. Thousands have tried and nearly all have failed. Pick a specialist area, read everything you can about it and keep meticulous records. The problem is the lesser the sport is, the more difficult it will be to get a bet on at the right price.
Try starting with a £100 bank and let us know how it goes.
Try starting with a £100 bank and let us know how it goes.
Roulette free since December 2011.
Laying horses is as Harry said fairly tricky, but if you have certain systems then its not all bad.
A couple of systems that I follow religiously are things like:
1. Always lay odds on handicap favourites,
2. Even between evens and 2/1 in a handicap I lay them.
3. If the fav and 2nd fav in a handicap are both under 5/1 then I lay them both.
4. Always lay odds on fav in maidens.
5. If over 20 runners in a handicap lay the front 5 in the betting.
6. Lay every horse under 2/1 that has never run before.
and my favourite is ALWAYS lay the team that scores the first goal in a football match.
Good luck if you try any of these MJD.
A couple of systems that I follow religiously are things like:
1. Always lay odds on handicap favourites,
2. Even between evens and 2/1 in a handicap I lay them.
3. If the fav and 2nd fav in a handicap are both under 5/1 then I lay them both.
4. Always lay odds on fav in maidens.
5. If over 20 runners in a handicap lay the front 5 in the betting.
6. Lay every horse under 2/1 that has never run before.
and my favourite is ALWAYS lay the team that scores the first goal in a football match.
Good luck if you try any of these MJD.