Damn roulette systems

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:36 pm

Now i know there is no guaranteed system on roulette. A mate of mine who likes a punt though has tried one and had some amazing results the past fortnight. He's £3,000 up and has spent a lot less hours than you'd think doing it. It involves column bets mainly and i don't have the full blurb on what he's doing yet, but i do know it contains gamblers fallacy elements as you increase bets on columns not appearing etc (which shouldn't need to happen on a random game....). When i have exactly what hes doing ill chalk it up here. Interesting certainly. He was infored to use golden palace casino for some reason.

ma71lda · Post by **ma71lda** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:48 pm

Look forward to reading the method, out of pure interest, but man you're opening up a big can o' worms..................

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:29 pm

Yeah. I'm all too aware of gamblers fallacies, and i don't really buy into them. However, there will never be 100% happiness/belief with any online casino that its truly random, so maybe some of these do work here. I've an inkling he's using roulette sniper or some other tracking software. Will let you know.

ob · Post by ob » Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:45 am

lol since a random number generator has no basis on the previous number, as does a real roulette wheel, there can be no such system

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:17 am

Indeed. But three grand profit says otherwise! I'll probably have a bash and see how i get on

mjd · Post by **mjd** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:24 am

I think I now understand the Random Number Generator. It randomly picks a number from the ones you you Haven't covered up! Ahhhhhh, I seeeeeeeeee, I seeeeeeeeeeee

pat624 · Post by **pat624** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:37 pm

Matt , dont waste your time, any system that involves increasing your stake to cover losses is doomed to fail eventually and will be costly when it does ....though they make work short term, and you may even get a long good run, eventually the machine will win.

FYI the only 3 ways I have found to beat roullete.

1) The "get your note back with yer fingers method" which was available on all old Ladbrokes Cyberview machines. Design fault in the machine. Never did this as it is theft and you can goto prison for a long time.

2) CMS -major flaw in programming...now all chipped anyway, also it soon became obvious to anyone watching exactly what you were doing

3) Will Hills Lucky 8..Takes ages but rewards were slow but consistant....to many people doing em now and hills are upgrading their machines and removing the game from all their shops anyway.

If anyone has anymore, genuine methods to make money from these evil machines please post or PM me

Pat

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:03 pm

Yeah the lucky 8 meth has been removed hasn't it? Or does it still work? Not too sure.

pat624 · Post by **pat624** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:37 pm

Lucky 8 still works Matt even with the new software, they are getting harder to find "ready" though.

The problem is Hills are taking all these machines out of their shops and replacing them with Global Draw machines....about half the Hills shops have been changed over already here and the rest are due to be changed over in next month or so , its over , was good while it lasted though.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:56 am

Oh well. No lucky 8s here anyway, as every bookie in cambridge is laddies/coral etc. Shame. :x

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:10 am

Any increasing stakes on numbers/rows/columns not appearing on roulette appears to be a variation martingale system which usually results in a very nasty loss somewhere down the line.

I have played on the golden palace casino many moons ago and I think there are a number of casinos that use there casino software so it would be unlikely to a fault with that.

But saying all of that I would be very interesting to know what system he is using.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:40 pm

Had a chat with him yesterday eve. turns out he's using nothing new-fangled or anything, but just the 'leveller' system.

All this involves is going to a roulette table, pressing one free no bet spin, seeing where the ball lands, then betting on the other 2 columns where it didn't land. You start with £1 on each of the two colums, so you only win £1 per spin. If your columns miss, then you up the stakes to £2 a column. If this hits a winner then you are back to level (£1 + £1 + £2 + £2 stake and a £6 column win). If you lose again, you up it to £4 a column, which means... (£1 + £1 + £2 + £2 + £4 + £4 = £14 stake and £12 won. A £2 loss). Another loser and you up it to £8 which gives a £6 loss. But, this system then asks you to continue betting £8 columns until you return to the stake you had when the £1 column bets lost. Hmmm. Could need a good bankroll at times i guess, but its quite a low risk ploy. I had a play with it this morning and made £30 in about 5-10 minutes. The odds are quite in your favour on this one as you have roughly a 66% chance of winning (minus zero of course. If this rolls in treat it as a missed column bet). I'll have a few more plays at it and see how i get on. Can't do any harm.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:03 pm

"cant do any harm" fatal last words for someone playing on roulette.

At least the system does not ask you to go above £8 a column, so £16 a spin but say you get 8 losers in a row before a winner in the 9th.

1 £2 loss
2 £4 = £6 in total
3 £8 = £14
4 £16 = £30
5 £16 = £46
6 £16 = £62
7 £16 = £78
8 £16 = £94

So £94 down going into the 9th spin and you win, staked £16 and won £24.

So after nine spins a loss of £86....

Ok odds are you will hit a winner sooner than later but the % gain profit wise is not very large & for your mate to have made £3k suggests that he probably went well over the £16 max stake to recoup or he spun the wheel 10,000 odd times to and was very lucky for this period.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:32 pm

Uh-huh, everything has its flaws unfortunately. I've got a few thou saved from fruit winnings, so my initial deposit of £100 won't really hurt if it all goes. Like you say you can get hit big, but the odds are heavily in your favour, and hopefully it won't happen.

I'll keep my progress posted on here to let you know how its going.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:48 pm

roulette like most things of chance is all about where to draw the line, if a £100 is not a problem then go for it as it is a bit fun (well it is supposed to be), but it is when you deposit another 200 to recoup the lost £100 is when things can go very nasty as I have done in the past (but not anymore).

I would however suggest for that system using the roulette on the betfair site with no zero as that will always be a losing number on this, and will increase your odds, although i don't know what the min bet is on that site.

Mattb wrote:Uh-huh, everything has its flaws unfortunately. I've got a few thou saved from fruit winnings, so my initial deposit of £100 won't really hurt if it all goes. Like you say you can get hit big, but the odds are heavily in your favour, and hopefully it won't happen.

I'll keep my progress posted on here to let you know how its going.