The Bookies - Absolutely crap

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:27 pm

people who think they are rigged are just plain stupid to be honest, its just people trying to give an excuse for them being complete addicts, forget the times they have only covered a couple of numbers and ones comes it but always remember the bad times.

Jackrack · Post by **Jackrack** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:32 pm

anfield road wrote:
Jackrack wrote:Fobt roulette, no matter how much people say they are rigged, are not.

They make so much on them, there is no need to put their company on the line..

Often i have stuck 10 quid in, and covering very little numbers, with 0 having 2 quid on, and 0 coming in.
I have never seen 20 blacks come in as often as it does in the bookies in the casino!!

How often do numbers double up in the bookies? Its rigged to a certian degree... I reckon over a set ammount or something

That is true - random number generators (or whatever FOBTs use) are some kind of computer, whereas casino use a human to spin it, so it is totally random.

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:39 pm

if the numbers were replaced by random symbols; maybe ≈, å, ø, ~, •, ∞, 0, ÷, ∆ etc. you could still find a pattern if you wanted to. but the 0 is still there to give the house edge. the numbers are meaningless.

ob · Post by ob » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:57 pm

anfield road wrote:
Jackrack wrote:Fobt roulette, no matter how much people say they are rigged, are not.

They make so much on them, there is no need to put their company on the line..

Often i have stuck 10 quid in, and covering very little numbers, with 0 having 2 quid on, and 0 coming in.
I have never seen 20 blacks come in as often as it does in the bookies in the casino!!

How often do numbers double up in the bookies? Its rigged to a certian degree... I reckon over a set ammount or something

the reason you see more 20 in a row blacks on FOBTs is that every spin lasts 30 seconds max rather than a few minutes so you get way more spins!!!

Also I have never seen more than 10 red/black in a row on FOBT's over thousands and thousands of experiences, your experiences therefore are just pure coincidence.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:31 am

You do get a totally disproportionate amount of mug offs on these though, seen it so so many times it's just unbelievable. Still it makes no odds, the bookies rake in thousands and thousdands off them, roulette is by far the most addictive casino game, and the one that will financially ruin you the quickest too.

JG · Post by JG » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:35 am

It's also pretty much globally accepted. You don't get a load of Kossovans piling around the £5 Flashback in JG's Amusements do you?

In my experience it is luck itself that is rigged.

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:04 am

I wonder how the seeding is done from the RNG though. Some of the sequences appear to be very non-random.

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:30 am

ob wrote:
anfield road wrote:
Jackrack wrote:Fobt roulette, no matter how much people say they are rigged, are not.

They make so much on them, there is no need to put their company on the line..

Often i have stuck 10 quid in, and covering very little numbers, with 0 having 2 quid on, and 0 coming in.
I have never seen 20 blacks come in as often as it does in the bookies in the casino!!

How often do numbers double up in the bookies? Its rigged to a certian degree... I reckon over a set ammount or something
When doing lucky 8's i saw 15+ straight red/blacks loadsa times! ended up costing me profit cos thats when i used to try 20 on opposite

the reason you see more 20 in a row blacks on FOBTs is that every spin lasts 30 seconds max rather than a few minutes so you get way more spins!!!

Also I have never seen more than 10 red/black in a row on FOBT's over thousands and thousands of experiences, your experiences therefore are just pure coincidence.

God knows how my post got in the middle of that!

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:48 am

rigged

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:57 am

I've seen 18 blacks in a row on a FOBT. Statistics suggest that 18 of any colour would occur once in 208,000 spins !

barneybear · Post by **barneybear** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:02 am

harry2 wrote:I've seen 18 blacks in a row on a FOBT. Statistics suggest that 18 of any colour would occur once in 208,000 spins !

There's no need for racist remarks.

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:07 am

barneybear wrote:
harry2 wrote:I've seen 18 blacks in a row on a FOBT. Statistics suggest that 18 of any colour would occur once in 208,000 spins !
There's no need for racist remarks.

Den some bumberclot honky played it. Ta-rass.

prizeguy · Post by **prizeguy** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:21 pm

well played on one of these on sat with a £5 stake, come off with £150 must have had about 20 successfull spins in a row despite just covering sometimes as little as 5 numbers, clearly machine needed to dump some cash. Would love to see the inner workings of these machines. Anyway as I have have said I would still play them even if they said they were not random just like I play fruity's.

In Summary cant accept they are random but still enjoy playing them providing I stick to my allocated stake. Used to be terrible on these things for chasing 'fav' numbers. Out of interest whats everyone fav number? normally the 0 will have the biggest covering for me and the numbers around it.

joe3_3 · Post by **joe3_3** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:40 pm

Allways 0 if i was gona do a £10 spin it'd be something like £5 zero £2 26+32 50p 3+15.......................................................

ob · Post by ob » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:00 pm

9 for me, mad how much I've made from that number!