Fruit Machine Chat

Anyone have any detail on how the finances of a pub having an SWP work out? I think someone on here suggested that the pub buys a set number of game plays from the manufacturer, which would concur with an odd experience I had at lunchtime - found an Ind:e in a pub that has never before had a machine, and I played 10-12 games on various things, after which it stopped me from playing another game of TOTP2. I quit back to the menu and the machine automatically paid out my winnings and quit to a screen saying something like no more credits were available and the pub needed to ring a number to get more. Seemed a bit off as I was done out of further wins (there were some good titles I was yet to begin on) through no fault of my own. At least I wasn't out of pocket though.

How do the finances work from there then? Does the pub get to keep all the profit once it's paid the upfront per-credit charges to the manufacturer then? I'd have thought the more sensible proposal would be for the manufacturer to install the machine for nowt and manufacturer and pub to share the profit, but what do I know?

Don't know the answer to your question but remember the one in the bell doing this albeit it kept some core (v shit) games but jetisoned the rest. Had a very similar message on it though IIRC

grecian wrote:Anyone have any detail on how the finances of a pub having an SWP work out? I think someone on here suggested that the pub buys a set number of game plays from the manufacturer, which would concur with an odd experience I had at lunchtime - found an Ind:e in a pub that has never before had a machine, and I played 10-12 games on various things, after which it stopped me from playing another game of TOTP2. I quit back to the menu and the machine automatically paid out my winnings and quit to a screen saying something like no more credits were available and the pub needed to ring a number to get more. Seemed a bit off as I was done out of further wins (there were some good titles I was yet to begin on) through no fault of my own. At least I wasn't out of pocket though.

How do the finances work from there then? Does the pub get to keep all the profit once it's paid the upfront per-credit charges to the manufacturer then? I'd have thought the more sensible proposal would be for the manufacturer to install the machine for nowt and manufacturer and pub to share the profit, but what do I know?

Maybe there's a camera installed in the machine and it recognises all of our faces? :P

not sure about the Q which has been asked, but, a publican who i trust has told me he got about a fiver in his pocket for a paragon which he used to site. per week. a fiver a week...



there is a jukebox there now.

we have indego multi-machine fruity and quizzer

ours is on a 70 / 30 basis... we get 70 and they get 30% of the takings...
we get more as we pay the license for the fruity and the swp....
they provide the machine and support...

we have the option to have a second screen but i think it costs us another few points of %age...


overall seems a good deal, as long as the quizzer is getting used and someone does a regular wage-packet in the shitty roulette game

Spyder, what is the licence per awp now? 750? Do you have to pay your own application/court costs on top of that?

swp is still free i assume?

steve.

Where does this thought pattern emerge from then?

Nothing really, i was just enquiring. Maybe my language sounded abit ambiguous but i was just being nosey.
The managed houses i was involved in always had their licences paid for by the supplier and this seemed to be easy for us managers.
I was wondering about the application method (do you have to stand in court etc) and also the turn around and standard of the m/cs supplied( with a rent, you pay more for a shinier, newer m/c)
I have also been offered another pub to run. Although i have turned it down, the nagging mind has recently become inquisitive again.
It seems to me that if the supplier is getting a good 30% from a dated unit they wont be clambering to change it (as a machine dates it's rent decreases but if the takings are still there the supplier makes more of a profit from it, becoming lazy so a strictly defined contract is needed?).


I worked for BLR and then M&B for about 8 years in total followed by 9 months unpleasantness being asked to turn a footie pub into a wine/real ale bar???????????.
My m/c suppliers at the time were leisurelink (8/10) and s/e leisure (SWP) 7/10.
Bet you wished you'd never asked, i know i do!
steve.

Hi

No liscence needed for swp.

Paragon's have a key that allows a certain number of plays - ie after 10,000 plays the message you saw appears on screen.

The OPENS INDES etc have a key that lasts for 365 days from when you insert it - but only knocks a day off if the machine is used for that day - ie if you have a refit and shut for 4 weeks and the machine is not switched on for those weeks you do not lose them.

There are companies who install swp's for free and split the takings 50:50.

I chose to purchase my OPEN machine myself - it cost approx £2000.

So I keep all the money it takes (obviously I was not in profit until it had made its purchase price back - which it has now done comfortably)

The new keys are approx £400.

Dave.

steveseagull wrote:Spyder, what is the licence per awp now? 750?.

It's £774.50 per machine, I believe.