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quiz zone banning.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:07 am
by cool
first visit to a pub today and last.seems i havent lost my touch.After racing to 20pound up somewhat fortuitously the publican said to make it my last game (in fact told me to lose my last game in order to get my winnings out)as taking twenty three pounds out of my machine 'is more than enough dont you think?'.
I replied it wasnt enough and then the usual unpleasantries began.Said that he spotted me a mile off as i used the toilet and had the temerity to buy a pint of diet coke before getting on the machine (better than roobos tea!)
.This halfwit suggested that i was scamming the machine and he was protecting his investment.

on leaving the pub said to him goodbye you fat bastard and he retorted similarly except to point out mu thinness.Little did he know that as an athlete you can never be too thin so it was actually a compliment.

not revealing the location actually or generally.

anybody else been banned recently to cheer me up and help sort out my why is it always me Ballotelli complex. cheers.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:19 am
by paragoon
Not been banned but have been having trouble. Three times now I've JPed a game and the machine's decided not to pay out.
On the plus side of 'Quiz Zone' the "Hopper Problem Call Engineer" notice came up but my money was still showing in the Bank section. The landlady just did the switch on/off thing and I got the cash out ok.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:20 am
by cp999
Think I'm on one banning for this year. I don't see the point in backchat to publicans, though it really gets my goat when they accuse you of scamming. On the other hand, someone I know seems to view bannings as an opportunity to exercise his considerable reserves of invective.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:12 am
by titchno1
Nothing worse than a banning. I have no problem if people don't want me to play their machine. It's just when they come out with the scamming, iPhone app or Bluetooth and magnets. Really does boil my piss.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:39 am
by trayhop123
cp ,,,,,,,,, when it has reached a point of no return ,,,,,, when no amount of reasoning will change the situation , when you know unequivocally* that you arn't getting back in the pub ever again ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, then you may aswell backchat all the way and let the prick know what you think of him, nowt to lose , and you get to show him up infront of his regulars lol











*big word thrown in out of respect for the room im in , lol

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:53 am
by cp999
trayhop123 wrote:cp ,,,,,,,,, when it has reached a point of no return ,,,,,, when no amount of reasoning will change the situation , when you know unequivocally* that you arn't getting back in the pub ever again ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, then you may aswell backchat all the way and let the prick know what you think of him, nowt to lose , and you get to show him up infront of his regulars lol
Yes, and no. There's some pubs where you'll be risking more than a banning by acting like that. Or if you provoke him into a ringround of his mates or the chain he works for? I think there's very little to be gained and more to potentially lose. I didn't always have this view and used to be really mouthy. Big word duly noted ;)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:52 pm
by trayhop123
your right , theres little to gain but a little self satisfaction,,,,,,,,, like titch says , theres nowt worse than being accused of something you haven't done etc tooling etc,,,,,,,,,,,, it does boil your piss indeed .

of course you have to weigh up the individual situation for potential kickings etc ,,,,,, before you turn

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:23 pm
by cool
can see both sides to the arguement.Now that I play a lot less I still get really pissed off about it. Thankfully most publicans are reasonable , even the banning ones in as much as things do not tend to spiral out of hand.

Possibly the worst banning I ever had was where a landlord accused me of working for Gamestec and when I emerged from the pub he was waiting in the back car parkready to give me a beating.Fortunately he didnt know my car and Imanaged to sprint over to it with him in pursuit.He then tried to block my exit until I threatenned to run him over.Its easy to criticise but to be unfairly labelled as dishonest and threatened physically makes it difficult to walk away.(pub was king rufus chandlers ford although 20yrs ago not called that)

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:10 pm
by paragoon
I'm not a very aggressive person and would be mortified if someone barred me tbh. Years ago as I reeled out my third Pepsi Chart Quiz JP a landlord asked me to vacate the premises. I was quite apologetic. Everyone's just trying to make a living - if I ran a pub I'd change whatever machine I had once I'd seen someone walk out with a small fortune.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:33 pm
by cp999
cool wrote:Possibly the worst banning I ever had was where a landlord accused me of working for Gamestec and when I emerged from the pub he was waiting in the back car parkready to give me a beating.Fortunately he didnt know my car and Imanaged to sprint over to it with him in pursuit.He then tried to block my exit until I threatenned to run him over.Its easy to criticise but to be unfairly labelled as dishonest and threatened physically makes it difficult to walk away.(pub was king rufus chandlers ford although 20yrs ago not called that)
I've been accused of working for Gamestec as well (or rather, MHG as they were at that point). Been blocked into a car park as well. There was an incident a couple of years ago where I think I would have got a kicking had I been on my own (to be fair I'd been warned about the place in question), and a landlord's thrown a punch at me.. he missed. Luckily nothing especially bad though, can't blame you for the approach you took.

I don't understand landlords who feel the need to add ignorant accusations: someone tells me to piss off, it's their prerogative and I'll accept that.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:56 pm
by Nil Satis
Do the few of you who count as 'pros' feel the need to visit any pub if you know of a playable machine in there? I occasionally make the choice to not bother with a place that is or looks recognisably rough, and maybe that means that I minimise the chances of the sort of issues you talk about, but whatever the reasons the end result is that in 25+ years I have had the grand total of TWO incidents that are even halfway to a barring or similar - once back in the early days in Blackpool and one a couple of years ago at a quiet pub in Windsor (an incident I mentioned on here). My current lists include well over 1000 venues without being remotely comprehensive even in the South, so I'm not having to be that choosy, but I do wonder if this is the deciding factor - that I don't feel I need to look anywhere for a suitable machine.

If this isn't the key factor here then you guys clearly need to sign up for 'Nil Satis's Invisibility 101' course pronto... ;-)

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:15 pm
by cool
ive noticed. two pubs very close together one you had taken apart the other not 600yards away on the same road untouched.on entering i was the only white face in a west indian run pub and clientele.I wasnt intimidated at all.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:28 pm
by cp999
Nil Satis wrote:Do the few of you who count as 'pros' feel the need to visit any pub if you know of a playable machine in there? I occasionally make the choice to not bother with a place that is or looks recognisably rough, and maybe that means that I minimise the chances of the sort of issues you talk about, but whatever the reasons the end result is that in 25+ years I have had the grand total of TWO incidents that are even halfway to a barring or similar - once back in the early days in Blackpool and one a couple of years ago at a quiet pub in Windsor (an incident I mentioned on here). My current lists include well over 1000 venues without being remotely comprehensive even in the South, so I'm not having to be that choosy, but I do wonder if this is the deciding factor - that I don't feel I need to look anywhere for a suitable machine.

If this isn't the key factor here then you guys clearly need to sign up for 'Nil Satis's Invisibility 101' course pronto... ;-)
I'm banned from about 100 places (though I've got back into a fair few as the landlord has changed), and self-banned from at least a dozen - including a few where I've been followed from the pub. I have a sneaking suspicion I win more than you do ;) though the odd thing is I only have one ban in recent years related to an "empty" and that's in a pub where the barman is a notorious cunt.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:56 pm
by cp999
cp999 wrote:I'm banned from about 100 places
over a truly massive geographical range though!

In retrospect, I can't believe I didn't get banned for one empty which was on its last legs, so I took the hopper one day, went back two days later to check if the game was still on, hopper had been miraculously refilled, so took it again for one coke invested! Sometimes I think looking like you don't care works better than the rigmarole of buying a meal, umpteen drinks etc.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:32 am
by cp999
Nil Satis wrote:Do the few of you who count as 'pros' feel the need to visit any pub if you know of a playable machine in there?
I'll try practically any establishment once, though there are a few I draw the line at. The strange thing is I think bannings aren't related to how much of a shithole the pub is, just some landlords have an attitude and others don't. I used to put in a lot of effort in some rundown establishments, playing pool with the locals etc - nowadays I just can't be bothered and would rather do the business as quickly as possible. People aren't stupid and tbh it looks worse if they suss out you're only fraternising with them to legitimise your presence.