I Won University Challenge

Discuss Quiz Machines here..
Locked
K_Oranj
Senior Member
Posts: 118
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:56 pm

I Won University Challenge

Post by K_Oranj »

Well, not me personally...

After returning from celebrations of Guy Fawkes' 'burning at the stake' (as David Walliams put it to Shakira on the Paul O'Grady Show) I caught the very entertaining Wonderland: I Won University Challenge documentary on the Beeb last night. Come the end credits I imagined I'd overheard the producers at their breakfast meeting:

Hey, let's do a doc on University Challenge winners. Just make sure we get loads of misfits to snigger at. You know, potty eccentrics, sad loners and underachievers. Oh, and don't forget the obligatory supernerd who thinks Homer's some sort of writer and who knows all about the Pubic Wars but hasn't a clue what a toothbrush is. Classic.

Whilst not all those who were featured appeared to be tinged with some regret about the effect their bulging brains have had on their lives they seemed to make up the majority of partici(smarty)pants, and the general thrust was that of a warning about the possible dangers of intellectual intelligence backed up by some fun quotes that punctuated throughout:

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" - Ernest Hemingway

Not bad as far as excuses go I suppose. Unfortunately the captain of 2003's winning Birkbeck team, Tony Gillham, must have attended a Jester's Ball on the night before one appearance as he confessed to having necked 16 double rum and blacks. Or perhaps he'd taken Garfield Sobers as his inspiration. Whatever the case, it seemed not to impair his ability to captain Birkbeck to the finals and receive the winners' trophy from Zephaniah without dropping it. I remember watching that. Little did I know how much he'd sozzled his way there.

One of his team mates who also featured was Thor Halland, a slightly-less-eccentric-than-though-similar-in-appearance-to-Boris-Johnson type (well it's difficult to imagine a more eccentric one isn't it? Wiff Waff.) Thor was shown answering some laughably easy first-round questions on Pub Quiz (Gamesnegg-hosted) after which he mused about intelligent professional suit types looking down on weird intelligence. [What? You don't know that the Amstrad CPC 464 came out before the Sharp MZ 2500. I don't know.]

Later in the programme Thor was shown playing Pub Quiz again where one of the answers he hit and called out was The Brian Jonestown Massacre. Slightly less recognisable I'd say than The Cooper Temple Clause so perhaps he was approaching the quid there. He then had a couple of lines about various illegal drugs he'd taken in his early twenties in a bid to calm his brain down. LSD probably wasn't the wisest choice.

Using search-engine skills that another former contestant (see below) so clearly lacks I discovered that a year ago Thor had an entry in Wikipedia until a bunch of Wikipedians noted that he was 'staggeringly non-notable' and deleted him in Cybermen fashion. (There's one comment on that deletion thread regarding University Challenge contestants I found to be a little below the belt, so to speak. :lol :) . Still, as long as all the serial killers and reality TV show tits have Wikipedia entries then all is in check. With a tip to irony Thor might appreciate an entry in the Content-Free Encyclopedia instead.

Another former winner who was of particular note was Francis Lambert. Describing himself as 'moderately donnishly dotty' it seemed that not even earning himself a place in the Guinness Book of Records with the highest score on Mastermind could prevent him from lamenting the fact that he could have achieved more in his academic career. (No doubt Toxteth O'Grady would turn up his nose at such a viewpoint.)

The forlorn Francis seemed to take some solace when he wistfully informed us, "I am on Google, so there you are." Then the hilarity began as he proceeded to locate something about himself on the internet:

I'm typing in my name. I'm in the Google section ....

Protestant reformer, born .... not that ....

Open People Directory, what the fuck's that?

I used to be on this ... I seem to have vanished but there you are.


Moderately donnishly dotty indeedy.


If ever a TV programme was made that would make philistined folk bask smugly in their (un(der-brain))contented ignorance this is a fine contender.


Personally I think this lot should be looking on the bright side - at least they didn't squashed by a giant eclair.
ZAX
Senior Member
Posts: 184
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:58 pm

Post by ZAX »

Hey- he was up to the fiver on Pub Quiz. Don't knock the Thor. Or play Pub Quiz after him :D
K_Oranj
Senior Member
Posts: 118
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:56 pm

Post by K_Oranj »

Alright Thor, I wondered who you were on here :lol: .

I'll have to rewatch that bit on iPlayer once I've got my Flash upgraded.

Good to see Pub Quiz on TV and of course Thor wielding his mighty Mjollnir.
User avatar
Matt Vinyl
Senior Member
Posts: 7198
Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 6:56 pm
Location: Lost in the outback, Bryan

Post by Matt Vinyl »

Mjollnir
Always loved that word... ;)
"And do you ever contradict yourself, Minister?" "Well, yes and no..."
cool
Senior Member
Posts: 1409
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:04 pm

Post by cool »

amazing actually had that question today on x factor and even more amazing fluked the correct answer!
K_Oranj
Senior Member
Posts: 118
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:56 pm

Post by K_Oranj »

Aye, coincidences are everywhere, though some are certainly more striking than others!
j2k7311
Member
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:56 pm

Post by j2k7311 »

Hey, I too wached that program and found the aim of the producers was just to pick program candidates who were astonishingly weird and functionally handicapped!

Even the choice of music emphasised the fact that they were barking!

I found it interesting but rather depressing viewing for any one with intellectual aspirations.

Oh, he was indeed playing the £5 round.
WaterGate
Senior Member
Posts: 453
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:43 pm

Post by WaterGate »

programme
User avatar
grecian
Senior Member
Posts: 1631
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 11:03 am
Location: Near London

Post by grecian »

I thought it was a pretty unedifying show, to be honest - as k_oranj notes, there are plenty of examples of well-rounded and successful University Challenge winners, and this show deliberately avoided most of them to make its point. I thought some of the questioning, particularly of the poor lady from Keele, was far too personal.

Having said that, any show which gives me a new central London GamesNet destination is worth something!
User avatar
harry2
Senior Member
Posts: 5155
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:34 pm
Location: The Royal County

Post by harry2 »

If UC is your thing there was a comedy on BBC2 last evening about a working class boy stumbling through his first year at Bristol University in the 80s dreaming to be on the quiz. Catch on BBC's i-player in the next seven days if you are keen. It's about 90 minutes.
Roulette free since December 2011.
K_Oranj
Senior Member
Posts: 118
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:56 pm

Post by K_Oranj »

Yeah, watched that and thoroughly enjoyed it, if only for nostalgia's sake ... and music by The Cure. Coincidentally set in '85/'86 at the dawn of the quizzus machinus.

Passed me by on its cinema release, but ever since having the question,

Who published David Nicholls' novel 'Starter For Ten'?

it's been on my list of films to catch some time (rather than novels to read).

And while I muse over the protagonist's quote, Sometimes it's not about knowing the right answer ... it's about asking the right questions, I'd better go and queue for my copy of Modern Warfare 2 if I want to get it before Christmas.
ggdr
Senior Member
Posts: 223
Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:10 pm
Location: London

Post by ggdr »

Thor and Gillham and co vanquished my team (Sheffield) in the semi-finals of 2003 UC. Not having watched the show, I can't put faces to the names, but at least one of them was exceedingly cretinous.
roberto la vigna
Senior Member
Posts: 348
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 3:04 pm

Post by roberto la vigna »

Scores on University Challenge should be multiplied by the reciprocal of the average age of each team to make up for the experience that advanced age brings.

eg. Sheffield: 240 x 1/21 = 11.424; Birkbeck 300 x 1/33 = 9.09

And with two minutes to go, Sheffield are on 12.319 and Birkbeck are on 10.3 recurring.


There are too many old codgers on show.
j2k7311
Member
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:56 pm

Post by j2k7311 »

WaterGate.. why did you type 'programme'?

Are you that sad that you feel the need to correct somebody for using the US spelling for a word?

Oh wait.. you did.... SO YOU ARE.
Locked