quiz emptiers
100% agree. It's like some undiscovered chemical force. You can be pushing a machine for £100 and it's way overdue then when you've got the set up for the top feature, the barman stops leaming the bar and decides to watch. Perhaps it's down to body language, or telepathic phenomena or just the law of Sod. Whichever way, rather annoying.
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rogerthymes
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Three times in my quizzing life I've pressed collect and the machine has emptied giving me around 150 quid. It was always on those fat cabinet type things. If I knew how or why it had happened I would have done it more often! Actually once I think it happened on an itbox but I can't quite recall... :P
no gamesnets the fault was on. It was as a result of poor maintenance on gamesnets 4, the contacts. I reported this fault to gamestec after it first happened to me and some time later it happenned again, so Im ashamed to say I kept the spoils.However getting money by default is not my style so when it occured for the 3rd and 4th times I handed the money back over the bar to the incredulity of the barstaff.
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David Healy
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Cool, how many times have you been short paid and never got it. Surely you should see this as a little bit of payback. And how do you know the barstaff didn't just pocket the cash - did you get a receipt?cool wrote:However getting money by default is not my style so when it occured for the 3rd and 4th times I handed the money back over the bar to the incredulity of the barstaff.
It only ever happened me once that I recall, on a Maygay cabinet (Pinball Wizard I think). I had no qualms in scooping up the additional cash and making a quick exit. It only put a small dent in the "Did not payout" column.
I take it your honesty carries through to other "bonuses" you have received and you have written a big fat cheque to JPM for the Bullseye extras you received?
no winning small amounts extra on a game that has a gliche that can be corrected and is known about the manufacturers, that you still have to use intelligence and skill to obtain is different from pressing a collect button and £150 drops out.Any muppet can do that.Its not just about me , I dont want chavs and thicko's benefitting in anyway.If a game in the future is developed with a flaw Ill keep it to myself, its going to be found and corrected.You generally have to have a modicum of intelligence to discover it.Also I am always thinking of the long term.A machine that dumps its hopper may be removed and not replaced.Lastly leaving a pub with money you are not entitled to may lead to a banning or worse still police interest. Saying its some kind of retribution against the pub up the road that owes you £25 and wont pay out is laughable. The favourite tactic of a dodgy landlord who knows he is leaving is to take the refunds and scarper with the new guy not perfectly understandable not wanting to payout.I once had a publican in Rickmansworth pay me out of his own pocket for the dishonest behaviour of a temporary manager.People like this are not a common occurrence.
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David Healy
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Cool, say you discover a machine that pays out an extra £1 or £2 each time you collect the bank. What would you do in that situation?
Applying your logic, you think that hitting a granny over the head and nicking £150 is morally questionable because anyone could do it (including "chavs and thicko's"), but if you were to obtain £3 from 50 different people via a complex credit card fraud, then that would be commendable and should be applauded because that would require "intelligence and skill".
Another analogy. It's Saturday afternoon and the banks are shut. You get £40 out of the cashpoint when you have asked for £20. Would you go to the nearest pub, give the extra £20 to the barstaff and ask them to pop into the bank when it opens to return it?
Finally, I never said that I saw keeping the money as retribution against another pub that won't pay. I view non-payouts as an occupational hazard. Anything extra is a little bonus, making up on the swings what you have lost on the roundabouts - but you will always lose more on the roundabouts.
Finally, finally, if a machine is going to get removed because it has dumped its hopper, then it will probably get removed whether you have brought it to the attention of the landlord or not. It will just be removed a lot quicker if you do bring it to his (or her) attention and someone else will have £150 in their pocket.
Finally, finally, finally, a question which I have considered recently. If you break into a pub at night, play the machine legitimately and are stopped by the police on your way out with £xxx in pound coins, can you be charged with theft?
Applying your logic, you think that hitting a granny over the head and nicking £150 is morally questionable because anyone could do it (including "chavs and thicko's"), but if you were to obtain £3 from 50 different people via a complex credit card fraud, then that would be commendable and should be applauded because that would require "intelligence and skill".
Another analogy. It's Saturday afternoon and the banks are shut. You get £40 out of the cashpoint when you have asked for £20. Would you go to the nearest pub, give the extra £20 to the barstaff and ask them to pop into the bank when it opens to return it?
Finally, I never said that I saw keeping the money as retribution against another pub that won't pay. I view non-payouts as an occupational hazard. Anything extra is a little bonus, making up on the swings what you have lost on the roundabouts - but you will always lose more on the roundabouts.
Finally, finally, if a machine is going to get removed because it has dumped its hopper, then it will probably get removed whether you have brought it to the attention of the landlord or not. It will just be removed a lot quicker if you do bring it to his (or her) attention and someone else will have £150 in their pocket.
Finally, finally, finally, a question which I have considered recently. If you break into a pub at night, play the machine legitimately and are stopped by the police on your way out with £xxx in pound coins, can you be charged with theft?
any analogy or reference to something outside of the pub is irrelevant.Everybody has a different set of values/morals. I cant say what anybody else does is wrong its up to them.Delving through my previous posts I would expect to find contradictions but then Ive never met a person who isnt a hypocrite!
Well said. Each to their own. And of course, you are quite correct, most if not all people are hypocrites to some extent. Trouble is, most people get angry when you point it out and get all aggressive/violently argumentitive. No-one likes being shown their own faults I guess.cool wrote:any analogy or reference to something outside of the pub is irrelevant.Everybody has a different set of values/morals. I cant say what anybody else does is wrong its up to them.Delving through my previous posts I would expect to find contradictions but then Ive never met a person who isnt a hypocrite!
It's a good question; I suspect you could very well be done for burglary on the basis that you've entered the property with the intention to use the pub's electricity (which runs the SWP), which you haven't paid for.David Healy wrote: Finally, finally, finally, a question which I have considered recently. If you break into a pub at night, play the machine legitimately and are stopped by the police on your way out with £xxx in pound coins, can you be charged with theft?
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rogerthymes
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Couldn't resist!