Is anyone here a professional Betfair Zero roulette player?
I have almost Jedi like skills when it comes to second guessing the RNG. My skills are amazing. I can't believe I used to play out 4dinging RKs! This zero roulette is fantastic, so easy to win, it's like having five extra dials on your route, all ahead, all ready. I'm only ttyping this as the casino page is loading up really slowly. I think it's Betfair's way of politely telling me I'm barred from zero roulette.
Anyway I'm sitll getting a few rough patches from time to time, any on line roulette pros with any clues?
Calling professional zero roulette players
lol I was up £3500 on it... staked £41000 and won £44500....
not played since, as I considered one day it would be a good idea to hit the casino bar button and not be tempted to lose the profits back!!! How much could I have made in the meantime eh JG, shot myself in the foot there.....
aah well, still got that hilo gambler on stanjames, which is also a 100% game.... the last experience on that has put me off though for a while, was £600 down, but recovered it to money back.... think I'll stay off that too eh :P
not played since, as I considered one day it would be a good idea to hit the casino bar button and not be tempted to lose the profits back!!! How much could I have made in the meantime eh JG, shot myself in the foot there.....
aah well, still got that hilo gambler on stanjames, which is also a 100% game.... the last experience on that has put me off though for a while, was £600 down, but recovered it to money back.... think I'll stay off that too eh :P
Kudos, I had not thought of you Ob when I wrote my posting. As a professional roulette player I would say you are regional expert standard, not quite up to International standard but a very strong roulette player/regional roulette expert.
I'm about £100 up on zero roulette, I don't profess to be a professional yet, but I'm working hard at it and the results are worth it. It's all I can do to second guess the next colour, but I've seen professionals at work and they're guessing more singles than a speed dating event, it's uncanny.
You're quite right to bar youself, it's not ethical to win such good money with such little effort. I think I should bar myself soon, give someone else a chance. Uuuft, I pity the poor sod who plays that roulette wheel after I've finished with it.
I'm about £100 up on zero roulette, I don't profess to be a professional yet, but I'm working hard at it and the results are worth it. It's all I can do to second guess the next colour, but I've seen professionals at work and they're guessing more singles than a speed dating event, it's uncanny.
You're quite right to bar youself, it's not ethical to win such good money with such little effort. I think I should bar myself soon, give someone else a chance. Uuuft, I pity the poor sod who plays that roulette wheel after I've finished with it.
maybe thats why people lose on the roulette? because a regional/international proffessional roulette player has already played/ MT'd / scammed it..JG wrote:I pity the poor sod who plays that roulette wheel after I've finished with it.
maybe http://www.fairplay-campaign.co.uk/ should have a section for roulette and how its fixed?
Not necessarily. Roulette saves up for very long cycle streaks. A professional could batter a wheel for say a couple of K and then a complete cluey can walk on and hit a couple of lucky numbers.
What the professionals do, is slowly drain the value out of the even money bets, not with Martindale or any of that crap, but a far more sophisticated system which basically involves betting high when they're lucky and low when they're not.
If you ride out you 'bad' luck with low bets and your 'good' luck with high bets then you'll win in the long run. It's just a case of being able to judge your luck. Ever had one of those days when you know nothing will go right? Ever woken up with a powerful feeling of success in your stomach?
Well a true roulette professional can judge with pin point precision the gradients between those two extremes.
Try and go for the long game though after a pro has hit a wheel and you'll soon be taking a wrong turn to a losing streak.
I've probably said to much, I can't say much more as I've paid good money for this one and it can't get out just yet.
Blackjack and Craps are also being done, so the best thing you can do in a casino is see how many complimentary sandwiches you can eat before they throw you out.
What the professionals do, is slowly drain the value out of the even money bets, not with Martindale or any of that crap, but a far more sophisticated system which basically involves betting high when they're lucky and low when they're not.
If you ride out you 'bad' luck with low bets and your 'good' luck with high bets then you'll win in the long run. It's just a case of being able to judge your luck. Ever had one of those days when you know nothing will go right? Ever woken up with a powerful feeling of success in your stomach?
Well a true roulette professional can judge with pin point precision the gradients between those two extremes.
Try and go for the long game though after a pro has hit a wheel and you'll soon be taking a wrong turn to a losing streak.
I've probably said to much, I can't say much more as I've paid good money for this one and it can't get out just yet.
Blackjack and Craps are also being done, so the best thing you can do in a casino is see how many complimentary sandwiches you can eat before they throw you out.
Betfair Zero roulette
I'm a betfair affiliate but also a betfair player of many years and I've had a good run on Zero Roulette. The main problem I've found is that you can only bet such a puny amount per spin (50GBP max). That means you can't cover all numbers (min 2GBP each) - so as a numbers player, you can never really win huge sums - well, not in a hurry at least. You can make black / red wagers of course - but there is something of a 50/50 probability that you'll win - so you need to be able to predict patterns or streaks to have a good go against the house.
If you really want to win in this game long term, then other than being lucky, you could strike up a relationship with an affiliate. Sportsbooks / casinos of all kind give referring affiliates a percentage of money spent by any players referred, a commission if you like. If you could find an affiliate who would return you say 20% of money lost, then you'd actually come up above 100% on this in the long run.
Month 1: win 200GBP - great you're up 200.
Month 2: lose 200GBP - get 40GBP back from your affiliate mate. Overall now you're still up 40GBP for the 2 months.
Month 3: win 200GBP - now you're up 240GBP.
Month 4: lose 200 GBP - get 40GBP back from your affiliate mate. Overall you're still up 80GBP for the 4 months.
Just a thought.
If you really want to win in this game long term, then other than being lucky, you could strike up a relationship with an affiliate. Sportsbooks / casinos of all kind give referring affiliates a percentage of money spent by any players referred, a commission if you like. If you could find an affiliate who would return you say 20% of money lost, then you'd actually come up above 100% on this in the long run.
Month 1: win 200GBP - great you're up 200.
Month 2: lose 200GBP - get 40GBP back from your affiliate mate. Overall now you're still up 40GBP for the 2 months.
Month 3: win 200GBP - now you're up 240GBP.
Month 4: lose 200 GBP - get 40GBP back from your affiliate mate. Overall you're still up 80GBP for the 4 months.
Just a thought.
i'm not one for roulette ,but this sounds dubious.......harry?
Re: Betfair Zero roulette
if i saved my shit for four months, it'd probably be worth about £80 as plant food.....davidpom wrote:Overall you're still up 80GBP for the 4 months.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
It'd actually be worth about £800 in China. It's due to the China shit crisis going on at the moment. They can't get enough shit in China, so they're importing it from other countries. There's a van that drives down the road every Sunday and pays pound for pound of poo. I'm getting through about twenty boxes of bran flakes a day. I think it's something to do with Facebook being banned in China and the resulting shock causing mass constipation, that or they're putting codeine into the seaweed. God knows.
A packet of senna is worth £150/ten tablets over there.
Many people are getting stinking rich over this one.
Rakeback is as old as the ark, it lessens the edge, but poker rooms, sports betting markets, yadda yaddas are full of canny sods who want to make money. Like Mr. Myagii says, don't matter how good you are, always someone better. If you make money, good, if you lose money, bad, stick to bran flakes.
An affiliate scheme/rakeback scheme is no substitute for a safety net. You can still die. It's like a safety net with hungry tigers and you're an acrobat with Parkinson's disease, covered in raw meat.
"The safety net...has gone"
A packet of senna is worth £150/ten tablets over there.
Many people are getting stinking rich over this one.
Rakeback is as old as the ark, it lessens the edge, but poker rooms, sports betting markets, yadda yaddas are full of canny sods who want to make money. Like Mr. Myagii says, don't matter how good you are, always someone better. If you make money, good, if you lose money, bad, stick to bran flakes.
An affiliate scheme/rakeback scheme is no substitute for a safety net. You can still die. It's like a safety net with hungry tigers and you're an acrobat with Parkinson's disease, covered in raw meat.
"The safety net...has gone"
I'm not sure of thinking about it as a safety net... more a form of insurance. But I take you point.
Fact is on a good game like zero roulette, having an added edge is certainly not going to be hurting anyone.
Good luck to you all regardless. :-)
Fact is on a good game like zero roulette, having an added edge is certainly not going to be hurting anyone.
Good luck to you all regardless. :-)
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