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Fobt = Best and Worst Bookies to play in?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:40 pm
by Dave FOBT King
Dont say oh theres all shit please because i know alot of people only go to certain bookmakers to gamble on the fobt?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:38 am
by griff50
same number is generated whichever bookies you are in so doesnt matter. Just depends what visual you like

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:08 am
by Dave FOBT King
Terrible reply but thanks anyway

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:22 am
by Istenem
come to Honest Istenem, he'll give you good odds, a sugary drink and two flaccid biscuits in a polythene wrapper (best before last week).

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:42 pm
by joker53
William Hills used to be the best but tbh they are all shit now. The only thing I put it down to is that the numbers playing them has dropped since their introduction. I always say if you're winning them some poor bastard is losing big in another shop.

i dont play any of them now as they became a joke and I had 10 visits of losing everytime. Before this I would say that the Tote was the worst and avoided it like the plague.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:24 am
by Dave FOBT King
^^ great reply - yeh i use to think wh was good but its got pretty shit

agree with you on tote - utter shit

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:37 pm
by barafear799
I'm in agreement too - but how did they go from "pretty good" to "shit"

Numbers playing them has fallen - but annual reports show income to bookies has increased!!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:20 am
by Dave FOBT King
They are paying out less due to william hill very poor online sales/profits for the last few years (read an online report somewhere a few weeks back)

so wh is now recouping the loss by using more machines and paying out less on those machines !!!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:46 am
by PMK
They're fucking random!!

No %age payout, no switch behind the counter, doesn't matter if somebody else is winning it doesnt affect you!!

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:47 pm
by barafear799
no %age payout?

But if you press the "help" button on the machines, it states that there is a % payout.


The "arguement" is whether or not the stated % (approx 97) is actually what the punter is getting.

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:31 pm
by Matt Vinyl
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:37 pm
by Dave FOBT King
Are you Serious PMK you really truly think its a random 2.7% house edge game ?? come on dont be daft mate.

iv already stated that they lost money on the online betting and got this back on the machines ! FACT ! search it for yourself william hill released the facts!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:23 pm
by joker53
There is nooo way these things are random! The only time you seem to win these days is if you bet very small stakes and look to make £20. There must be programming rules built into each machine to decide upon the number matching its desired payout.

Give me real casino roulette any day of the week. I just wish people would get the message about these horrid machines and stopped playing them. Doubt it will happen unless there is some radical changes to the gambling act by the tories. Then again, dont the Government receive over 30% of the profits made by bookmakers - no chance they will put steps in place to reduce their income.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:21 pm
by Dave FOBT King
There is nooo way these things are random! The only time you seem to win these days is if you bet very small stakes and look to make £20. There must be programming rules built into each machine to decide upon the number matching its desired payout.

Give me real casino roulette any day of the week. I just wish people would get the message about these horrid machines and stopped playing them. Doubt it will happen unless there is some radical changes to the gambling act by the tories. Then again, dont the Government receive over 30% of the profits made by bookmakers - no chance they will put steps in place to reduce their income.


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100 % AGREE

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:39 pm
by JG
FAO: The proliferation of people on this thread and on this board in general who are complaining that these are rigged.

May I direct you to my FOBT roulette is rigged (again) thread on the bookmakers forum? I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next mikej82; well maybe not that much, but it's a good read and should help to stop us covering well worn ground. To summarise, it was looking good for the 'it's rigged' brigade until someone posted a summary of Ladbroke's FOBT takings for a financial year. The stats added up to imply that roulette would be giving a true house edge to the bookies. Perhpas this is all just cleverly manufactured propoganda to pull the wool over our eyes? Have a ganders and see what you think.

The ultimate word has to be hold, card, no wait, cold, hard common sense. Boring? Yes. Arguable? No.

"If you think they are rigged, then why play them?"

Hey, even if they're not rigged, you're still onto a loser in the long run.

You are only buying entertainment.