New pound coin
New pound coin
How will this affect a machines hooper do you think?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... y-bit.html
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there will be conversion kits made up, i still remember when the 10p coin changed size lol.
real problem will be for much older machines, i reckon old barcrest/ project coin machines will struggle as they used a variety of diffrent compact hoppers.
also older electrocoin bar-x, big 7 machine type machines.
if the coin is much the same size and width then there might not be so much of a problem.
coin mechs will be no worry at all, they will easily be upgraded.
real problem will be for much older machines, i reckon old barcrest/ project coin machines will struggle as they used a variety of diffrent compact hoppers.
also older electrocoin bar-x, big 7 machine type machines.
if the coin is much the same size and width then there might not be so much of a problem.
coin mechs will be no worry at all, they will easily be upgraded.
arcades will be hit the hardest i reckon, machine operators who rent/lease to pubs and the like use reasonably new stock, which should be relatively easy to upgrade.eddiesdad wrote:how many small machine operators will just give up rather than upgrade?
i been thinking about this alot today, arcades are gonna have a tough time.
coinmech upgrade is not as simple as it sounds, you need a mech to perform in three diffrent modes.
mode 1: accept both new and old pound coins, route old coins to hopper/divert when full and new coins to cashbox (for when the coin gets released and is still rare)
mode 2: accept both old and new pond coins, route new coins/divert when full and old coins to cashbox (a few month down the line when there are more new coins than old and hopper is fitted to payout in new coins)
mode 3: accept only new coins (for when old coins become obsolete, this is important because guys making fake coins will still have the eqiupment to make old fake coins, they will try and use them in machines still accepting them)
there is another problem , which will affect arcades more than most, also club machines.
coins with straight edges don't roll as well as coins with round edges.
azcoyn square hoppers have a coin rundown of maybe 6-8 inches, the coin has to roll down on its side for it to work, some machines have double hoppers so double the roll distance.
a coin with edges will not be able to do this, major headache really and a load of machines use this type of hopper.
electrocoin, astra and bellfruit all use them in some machines, going to take a major rework of the machine plumbing to get these working with the new coin.
then there is the pusher machines, will a coin with edges operate properly in these machines? not the greatest takers in the world, but expensive machines that arcades use.
then there is the sit down multi-player machines (elvis/party times etc), which use coin escalators to push the coins up for payout, not sure how a coin with edges will perform on them, they jam at the best of times.. lol
alot to think about if you run a small arcade or chain of arcades....
going to cost a few quid...
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Sounds like this is going to kill off all seaside arcades and the Butlins style holiday parks will be hit hard. Sad but a new pound coin us needed. I'd say the amount of fake pound coins in circulation is much higher than the 3% figure they claim, more like 10-15%, but then maybe that's because the coins I deal with come from fruit machines which are easy targets for fake coin scams.
Could be the end of the quiz machines too. There's less and less of them, they don't accept the new 10 and 5ps as it is.The Dark Horse wrote:Sounds like this is going to kill off all seaside arcades and the Butlins style holiday parks will be hit hard. Sad but a new pound coin us needed. I'd say the amount of fake pound coins in circulation is much higher than the 3% figure they claim, more like 10-15%, but then maybe that's because the coins I deal with come from fruit machines which are easy targets for fake coin scams.