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Spamming

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:17 pm
by BFK
How comes this new up to date board that lets face it still doesnt work correctly, is so prone to spamming and yet the 1990's model wasnt?

It still thinks I havent read posts even when I have...............Arrrrggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Bring back old Fruit Chat or I'm off to potty.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:17 pm
by BFK
Oh and bring back MOG.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:33 pm
by Legend_Returns
These boards cost a lot of money to run and it would be unfair to turn against those that are trying to provide you with a better platform.

I understand your concerns, I'm sure those in higher positions will note your details and fix them as soon as possible.

keep the faith.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:51 pm
by harry2
Bots are quicker than humans. Have deleted about a dozen posts today. We are trying.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:00 pm
by BFK
Of course I wasnt serious, Im old school on this site thank you Legend Returns!!!!

I was serious about MOG tho!!

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:04 pm
by mr lugsy
why do you need MOG when HRK is back?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:40 pm
by blackmogu
1. Boards like this do not cost alot of money to run.
2. Do not auto-approve account creation requests. Make moderators approve them.
3. Do not approve obviously gibberish names.
4. Use catchpas and other bot-foiling methods such as custom questions on signup.

Problem solved.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:07 pm
by BFK
I take it back Mogu!! I'm off to potty!!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:11 pm
by trayhop123
splitter lol

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:41 pm
by aaamusements.co.uk
It's ironic that we can now eliminate 99% of spam on a phpbb board (which is free) but you can't on a VBulletin board (which I can assure you IS more that just reassuringly expensive these days)...
https://www.vbulletin.com/order/

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:11 pm
by feeder22
Didn't someone use hrks account a few months back proclaiming to be his aunt or something?
Saying he was dead?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:53 pm
by aaamusements.co.uk
Where is HRT these days anyway?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:46 am
by blackmogu
The cost of running a board is separate to the cost of purchasing. Purchase wise, $195 is not lots of money. Even if you go for the full whack of garbage at $469, that's still only £300. You can spend that on a night out. That number will be reduced further by ad revenue income.

The influx of spam is due to the increased visibility of the board on google due to better SEO techniques in vBulletin, and spambots targeting modern systems (vBulletin, ipBoard) as they tend to have larger communities. So it's not that phpBB eliminated spam, it just wasn't targeted enough for it to be a problem.

Here's a hint for lessening spam in vBulletin: https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthr ... ation-Bots

It's really not hard to do.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:53 am
by kong
Good post BM, some interesting stuff there. Some of the hints in the linked article are a bit dated though, hence less effective today than they were when it was published. E.g. The suggestions in steps 2 and 3 also now easily bypassed by the spam software.

I believe one of the better suggestions (linked from the page above) is to require moderation of the posts of new users until they reach a certain threshold. Setting the limit as low as just 2 or 3 posts is sufficient because typically the software registered accounts start posting spam / links / irrelevant content immediately. Mods can very easily identify legitimate new users, in which case they clear the posting restriction.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:51 am
by aaamusements.co.uk
blackmogu wrote:The influx of spam is due to the increased visibility of the board on google due to better SEO techniques in vBulletin, and spambots targeting modern systems (vBulletin, ipBoard) as they tend to have larger communities. So it's not that phpBB eliminated spam, it just wasn't targeted enough for it to be a problem.
I disagree. A badly configured phpbb board is just as much of a spam magnet as anything else.
However setting the captcha to a Q&A system with a sensible, non-machine google-able couple of sets gets rid of all the bots, leaving only the occasional determined manual spammer once in a while.

Also if I did choose to pay for a board, it would be Invision I would go for. Much more sensible pricing.