Sorry everyone I just read Redlinesman's post and I actually appreciate it! I think he is pretty much right in every respect, certainly the empty feeling (there is the nice emptyING feeling but he doesn't mean that 1).
The truth is, I sit down now and I think about what to put down on my CV? Do I put down unemployed ever since I touched a fruit? I'm 35 and look at the mess I am in! All of you should be thinking about this.
I see myself as a hard worker, anyone who has known me for a lengthy period of time will agree (OK so I slacked off the last couple of years), I just got fed up of trying to save up and just gambled everything all out every time I made money for years on end. Where did it get me? What do I put down as 'experience' on my CV? What do I specialize in? Writing waffle on here? Doing my bollocks on FOBTs? Tipping horses that lose who I also back with this hard earned cash?
I know I can do work, I know I can grind when I have to, but who else does? Who else who would EMPLOY me does? Do I get rivals to write me a reference? I can just imagine, "Ahmad is a hard worker, he used to spend hours at Heston Services and he was in control of a fair bit of West London, he is also a very good driver!" Do I also try to make myself look 'good' with figures like how much I earned from my 'work' over the years and do I hide how much of that money I blew on gambling? Do I try to appear like a robotic person who can actually handle the gambling element that goes with this work? Do I disguise the 'wanting a career change' as boredom driven or do I be realistic and say I just get drawn into a gamble at the slightest hint of things going wrong or when I have more than I expected to have so I have 'spare' gambling cash?
Think about this everyone, I'm certainly not a thicko but my CV doesn't tell anyone any different. What's the point in myself and you all knowing what I can do when none of you are going to employ me/get me employed and I can't employ myself?
What will all of you be doing when you're older than me or my age (if you aren't already) and have nothing to show for it?
I thought Rich was a fool getting employment at first, now I actually admire him for it. Well done Rich, I mean that.
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Which is why I still work, if I didn't id probably be playing 4 rainbows in bug gala. If you cant keep in control all the time and keep the "red mist" at bay U will end up skint. But it happens to alot who play full time. You go from having minimum expenditure to the life of someone on 40k a year in one go, your not prepaired for it and don't know how to handle it so U save but waste alot on anything and eventually waste more till its mainly all gone.
who am i to talk i played rainbows up untill 2.5 weeks back where i had my 1st hit on one as i broke my main rule.
who am i to talk i played rainbows up untill 2.5 weeks back where i had my 1st hit on one as i broke my main rule.
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How much did you lose?streakseims wrote:Which is why I still work, if I didn't id probably be playing 4 rainbows in bug gala. If you cant keep in control all the time and keep the "red mist" at bay U will end up skint. But it happens to alot who play full time. You go from having minimum expenditure to the life of someone on 40k a year in one go, your not prepaired for it and don't know how to handle it so U save but waste alot on anything and eventually waste more till its mainly all gone.
who am i to talk i played rainbows up untill 2.5 weeks back where i had my 1st hit on one as i broke my main rule.
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More than I set myself mav, nothing like 2k but I can see how people do it, there like a Sega mega drive, no matter how many times it kills you you want to try again lol I don't know what I've lost because id lose maybe a couple if hundred then id luck out for a while then id lose again. i was quite lucky on them compaired to many
For anyone on here U should read mark on fires diary its 75 pages this year but U won't believe the end figure but its all true
For anyone on here U should read mark on fires diary its 75 pages this year but U won't believe the end figure but its all true
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Noels Beard
Ruler of The World wrote:Sorry everyone I just read Redlinesman's post and I actually appreciate it! I think he is pretty much right in every respect, certainly the empty feeling (there is the nice emptyING feeling but he doesn't mean that 1).
The truth is, I sit down now and I think about what to put down on my CV? Do I put down unemployed ever since I touched a fruit? I'm 35 and look at the mess I am in! All of you should be thinking about this.
I see myself as a hard worker, anyone who has known me for a lengthy period of time will agree (OK so I slacked off the last couple of years), I just got fed up of trying to save up and just gambled everything all out every time I made money for years on end. Where did it get me? What do I put down as 'experience' on my CV? What do I specialize in? Writing waffle on here? Doing my bollocks on FOBTs? Tipping horses that lose who I also back with this hard earned cash?
I know I can do work, I know I can grind when I have to, but who else does? Who else who would EMPLOY me does? Do I get rivals to write me a reference? I can just imagine, "Ahmad is a hard worker, he used to spend hours at Heston Services and he was in control of a fair bit of West London, he is also a very good driver!" Do I also try to make myself look 'good' with figures like how much I earned from my 'work' over the years and do I hide how much of that money I blew on gambling? Do I try to appear like a robotic person who can actually handle the gambling element that goes with this work? Do I disguise the 'wanting a career change' as boredom driven or do I be realistic and say I just get drawn into a gamble at the slightest hint of things going wrong or when I have more than I expected to have so I have 'spare' gambling cash?
Think about this everyone, I'm certainly not a thicko but my CV doesn't tell anyone any different. What's the point in myself and you all knowing what I can do when none of you are going to employ me/get me employed and I can't employ myself?
What will all of you be doing when you're older than me or my age (if you aren't already) and have nothing to show for it?
I thought Rich was a fool getting employment at first, now I actually admire him for it. Well done Rich, I mean that.
If you genuinely want out, you'll have to lie. Be gutsy and aim high...but not too high or you'll get caught. Maybe a 22k a year job, something like that. Something office based, that ties in with whatever lies you put down on the CV. Pay a couple of people off for references, lie about a University qualification. People will say they check but they seldom do. Especially if you graduated 15 years back. Remember, once you've added a genuine job to the bottom of your CV you're suddenly back in the game. Believe me the most difficult part will be struggling with the boredom.
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Wouldn't recommend that last bit of advice from Noels Beard but I can understand the temptation to do it.
Ruler of the world - you'd have to have a clean break and start from scratch like you were a 16yo. The first thing to do would be to try and pursue a career that you have a genuine interest in and makes you feel worthwhile. No fruit machine player actually feels worthwhile, even after a £1200 day you might get a buzz but what does it actually mean? It is in fact meaningless and the pursuit of money and materialism just basically sucks you in. I sometimes imagine that money didn't exist and then actually think about my use to the world. I've done regular voluntary work over the last 5 years and helped a couple of friends out with businesses and that does give me a feeling of worthiness, winning money is just a buzz, I used to use the word wage but it is not a wage in real terms.
To start with Ruler of the World you need to ease yourself back into a normal life and society because it will be a complete culture shock. You will need to have structure and social substance in your life and your mentality will gradually change. For it to be a success you will have to do it properly, making lies up on your CV may land you a job in the short term but there will be no substance to what you have said about yourself and employers can often pick little things up. You'll have to lie through your back teeth in any interview and I don't think you'd be suddenly valuing your place in society. That is the mindset of most gamblers, they play the short term game and want everything instantly, play the long game with this one and do it properly.
For a start I'd identify an area your passionate about and start to do some research on it. The next step would be to try and sample it by trying to get a bit of experience coupled with maybe doing some studying. You don't have delve right in and pay a large course fee or training course, you could just do something at a local college to ease your mindset back into a learning environment. There's loads of different careers out there and you are certainly not old to start a career. At the age of 35 you've probably got another 35 years of employment to look forward to so the being too old line is simply not an argument. I know a couple of people who changed careers in their mid 40s, one from a welder to a social worker and another from a secretary to an air traffic controller. You will have to be pro-active though and throw yourself in at the deep end, volunteering and getting some social and life skills will be a must.
Ruler of the world - you'd have to have a clean break and start from scratch like you were a 16yo. The first thing to do would be to try and pursue a career that you have a genuine interest in and makes you feel worthwhile. No fruit machine player actually feels worthwhile, even after a £1200 day you might get a buzz but what does it actually mean? It is in fact meaningless and the pursuit of money and materialism just basically sucks you in. I sometimes imagine that money didn't exist and then actually think about my use to the world. I've done regular voluntary work over the last 5 years and helped a couple of friends out with businesses and that does give me a feeling of worthiness, winning money is just a buzz, I used to use the word wage but it is not a wage in real terms.
To start with Ruler of the World you need to ease yourself back into a normal life and society because it will be a complete culture shock. You will need to have structure and social substance in your life and your mentality will gradually change. For it to be a success you will have to do it properly, making lies up on your CV may land you a job in the short term but there will be no substance to what you have said about yourself and employers can often pick little things up. You'll have to lie through your back teeth in any interview and I don't think you'd be suddenly valuing your place in society. That is the mindset of most gamblers, they play the short term game and want everything instantly, play the long game with this one and do it properly.
For a start I'd identify an area your passionate about and start to do some research on it. The next step would be to try and sample it by trying to get a bit of experience coupled with maybe doing some studying. You don't have delve right in and pay a large course fee or training course, you could just do something at a local college to ease your mindset back into a learning environment. There's loads of different careers out there and you are certainly not old to start a career. At the age of 35 you've probably got another 35 years of employment to look forward to so the being too old line is simply not an argument. I know a couple of people who changed careers in their mid 40s, one from a welder to a social worker and another from a secretary to an air traffic controller. You will have to be pro-active though and throw yourself in at the deep end, volunteering and getting some social and life skills will be a must.
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Noels Beard
With high unemployment, an influx of qualified multilingual contenental workers, and 50% of all young people entering the job market possessing University degrees: the only thing the older worker has to offer is experience. As I said before, I wouldn't want to work for anyone who was willing to employ me. He's obviously intelligent enough to be able to hold down a medium responsibility office job, I'd suggest something in the public sector if it hadn't been shaved so tight recently. The difference between starting at the very bottom and starting 2 or 3 rungs up is just a measure of confidence. It's not even illegal to lie on your CV, as it is not a legal document. Whilst you present it, you do not sign it. Your MA in Marine Biology could just have been a typo. Besides, it shows creativity. And the will to succeed.
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Its hardly a 'career change' though! The point I am trying to make is, I see myself as a good worker - if motivated by something I would like to do and which I feel I would earn enough money in doing in return. But how do I prove this? I would literally need a highly successful fellow 'player' to have opened his own business somehow who knew me personally and know that I will work hard to employ me! I don't see this happening. Yes I could lie, if I didn't I'd be doing the same shitty jobs as the fresh-off-the-boat immigrants who come here. I get more in bonuses in my Ladbrokes account than those people earn a month - and that's BEFORE I get my deposit matches!
This is the whole thing, you could say at the moment I work for Ladbrokes! They wouldn't give me a job, I've even tried going down that path and they say apply on the site - but then you look at the requirements and think "Oh well, that's not happening!" Even though I know I could give them a hell of a lot of good ideas especially on the FOBT front.
I guess at the moment I will be looking at getting into some short term course that at least gets me some form of qualification of recognition to these companies.
You could just imagine how fantastic some of our CVs would be if we could actually make them based on 'fruit machine experience'... how well travelled we are, which tricks we had, how much we earned from them, which areas we had to ourselves, etc.... how we emptied p1 of this and p2 of that.... crazy. There is simply no way to make sense of it to anyone outside our own sphere. We choose to go into it because at first its massive earnings, fun, you're your own boss, etc. Then we realise that it gets us nowhere, that we are basically drifters, might as well be selling drugs - another 'job' you can't really put down on your CV!
This is the whole thing, you could say at the moment I work for Ladbrokes! They wouldn't give me a job, I've even tried going down that path and they say apply on the site - but then you look at the requirements and think "Oh well, that's not happening!" Even though I know I could give them a hell of a lot of good ideas especially on the FOBT front.
I guess at the moment I will be looking at getting into some short term course that at least gets me some form of qualification of recognition to these companies.
You could just imagine how fantastic some of our CVs would be if we could actually make them based on 'fruit machine experience'... how well travelled we are, which tricks we had, how much we earned from them, which areas we had to ourselves, etc.... how we emptied p1 of this and p2 of that.... crazy. There is simply no way to make sense of it to anyone outside our own sphere. We choose to go into it because at first its massive earnings, fun, you're your own boss, etc. Then we realise that it gets us nowhere, that we are basically drifters, might as well be selling drugs - another 'job' you can't really put down on your CV!
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Imagine your 'work experience' section if you've played all the stuff I have over the years... off the top of my head, can't remember years but it'd go something like this for the empties and good methods I remember...
JPM numbering machine methods (Casino 5 Liner, Red Arrow, Arcadia, Hi Roller, Do You Feel Lucky, Hi Impact, Hot Shot, Caesar's Palace)
The Blue Rinse (Do Or Die hi-lo lottery method)
King Kebab p1 on the barcode, p2 on the playing for sequence 'method'
Revolution p1 the 'free win' on the gamble step program, p2 on the 'collect everything, know your nearest win set ups, etc. method, p3 for sequence again. Same for Battle Axe and Golden Dragon later on and very similar on Ultimo.
Dosh N Pecks/Fireball method
Snake Rattle N Roll/Cop The Lot empty
Fruitopia/Cashraker empty
Just The Ticket empty
Rat Pack/Jumpin Jokers (or whatever it was called) empty
Ready To Rock empty
Overload empty
Money Laundry empty
Big Cheese/Hi Flyer method
Vamp It Up Pick A Reel method (also worked on a few All Fired Ups)
Extreme 'key' method
Screaming Demons method, forgot name of the other game with that safari character on it
Extreme £35 13/14 nudges method (Happy Campers/Jailbirds/ship themed clone)
Deal Or No Deal 4 reeler empty
Deal Or No Deal Beat The Banker empty
Deal Or No Deal What's In Your Box empty for p1, p2 and p3
Deal Or No Deal Power 5 empty
Cluedo/Monopoly method/empty
Cops N Robbers empty
Deal Or No Deal Hall of Fame empty
£70 Cluedo/Monopoly method
Alien methods
Skill Roulette 'method'
Can You Dig It/Empire Strikes Back method
Rainbow Riches/Rob Da Bank/Star Wars method
Perfect Deal empty
Live The Dream empty
Please remind me if I have missed anything out. I'm just wondering where all the £ coins I made from the above machines have gone...
JPM numbering machine methods (Casino 5 Liner, Red Arrow, Arcadia, Hi Roller, Do You Feel Lucky, Hi Impact, Hot Shot, Caesar's Palace)
The Blue Rinse (Do Or Die hi-lo lottery method)
King Kebab p1 on the barcode, p2 on the playing for sequence 'method'
Revolution p1 the 'free win' on the gamble step program, p2 on the 'collect everything, know your nearest win set ups, etc. method, p3 for sequence again. Same for Battle Axe and Golden Dragon later on and very similar on Ultimo.
Dosh N Pecks/Fireball method
Snake Rattle N Roll/Cop The Lot empty
Fruitopia/Cashraker empty
Just The Ticket empty
Rat Pack/Jumpin Jokers (or whatever it was called) empty
Ready To Rock empty
Overload empty
Money Laundry empty
Big Cheese/Hi Flyer method
Vamp It Up Pick A Reel method (also worked on a few All Fired Ups)
Extreme 'key' method
Screaming Demons method, forgot name of the other game with that safari character on it
Extreme £35 13/14 nudges method (Happy Campers/Jailbirds/ship themed clone)
Deal Or No Deal 4 reeler empty
Deal Or No Deal Beat The Banker empty
Deal Or No Deal What's In Your Box empty for p1, p2 and p3
Deal Or No Deal Power 5 empty
Cluedo/Monopoly method/empty
Cops N Robbers empty
Deal Or No Deal Hall of Fame empty
£70 Cluedo/Monopoly method
Alien methods
Skill Roulette 'method'
Can You Dig It/Empire Strikes Back method
Rainbow Riches/Rob Da Bank/Star Wars method
Perfect Deal empty
Live The Dream empty
Please remind me if I have missed anything out. I'm just wondering where all the £ coins I made from the above machines have gone...
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Ruler of The World
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Or hang around and do this and sell off the little buggers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvsmTdKyIWQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvsmTdKyIWQ
Or if you've got capital, set up ur own supplier business.
Go round all pubs that don't have a machine, offer them a no lose profit share.
Buy cheap £70's from tinterweb and a cheap van and ur sorted.
Let's be honest u don't need to be legit with licenses etc cos we all know there is no regulation!!
Easy money.
Go round all pubs that don't have a machine, offer them a no lose profit share.
Buy cheap £70's from tinterweb and a cheap van and ur sorted.
Let's be honest u don't need to be legit with licenses etc cos we all know there is no regulation!!
Easy money.