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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:40 am
by kidgloves
john32 wrote:I remember a fruit machine called win again, i think it was a 2p machine & it was a £3 Jackpot, it was very simular to supa cobra & you had to get a win then hit the gamble button very fast & it would go all the way to Jackpot.

A very early trick/emptier i did was the video fruit chase the ace, the trick was to fill the matrix of cards, the cards would trail hold & give you wins up until £4.80p if it did not trail hold, you only had to reset the fruit until it trail held, even on a winning matrix. It held £95 coins/£60 50ps/£20 10ps & £150 20p tokens, a very profitable emptier if you ask me. :P :lol: 8)
I don't think Win-a-Gain was an emptier - the gamble just maxed out as the machine got happier. If somebody had just won the JP, the gamble would constantly lose at the first gamble then as it recovered, the gamble would climb. Basically, an early example of programmed blocks.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:02 am
by john32
I think most professional fruit machine players exisited after the beginning of 1990 when the jackpot went up to £4.80 & the credits went up from 10p per play to 20p per play, that was the beginning of the fruit machine sequences & skill play, In 1990 a whole new breed of professionals started to play the fruits.
I remember the first £4.80 skill fruit emptier in 1990 was the 4 reel card cash & the 4 reel super black jack they were the first skill emptiers that i did, then came 7 heaven, clould 9, 7 melons, 7 jackpot, blue moon, they were the very first sequencing machines.
I remember getting barred from the whole of the Isle of Wight in 1990 for getting a £30 sequence on a 7 heaven, the staff in the arcades were very pissed off with any professional fruit machine player sequencing there fruit machines as it was a brand new format of making money on those fruits. :P 8) :shock:

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:04 am
by ecstasy
only one i managed to find out was clownin around. saw a few guys emptying it in the trocadero when it was actually worth going to. ie. 6 levels all open with fruitmachines. unfortunately they seem to have all been fazed out

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:06 pm
by john32
There were 3 generations of professionals, 80's, 90's, 00's, i was in the first generation, i played professionaly in the early-mid 80's.
We are now in the 4th generation, i think this generation will be the toughest of all the the past generations of professional AWP fruit machine pub/arcade/bowling alley gamblers.
Not including club players as they had there £100 jps back in the 80's. :shock: :P :roll: :lol: 8) :wink:

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:21 pm
by harry2
when did smedley start the cma werent players doing the cops and robbers on the ferries in thd mid eightier

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:11 pm
by john32
&quot wrote:when did smedley start the cma werent players doing the cops and robbers on the ferries in thd mid eightier
£200 jp Cops & robbers was from the mid 90's, i think they came out just after the £150 jp pharaoh's gold. :P

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:18 pm
by john32
Does anybody on fruit chat do the trick on nickleodien,
The trick was to avoid taking a win until all the wins upgraded to £4.80,
It was a fantastic trick, the best result was just over £20, most of the time i left with a £10 profit.
:shock: :lol: :wink: :P 8)

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:33 pm
by mr lugsy
kidgloves wrote:
john32 wrote:I remember a fruit machine called win again, i think it was a 2p machine & it was a £3 Jackpot, it was very simular to supa cobra & you had to get a win then hit the gamble button very fast & it would go all the way to Jackpot.

A very early trick/emptier i did was the video fruit chase the ace, the trick was to fill the matrix of cards, the cards would trail hold & give you wins up until £4.80p if it did not trail hold, you only had to reset the fruit until it trail held, even on a winning matrix. It held £95 coins/£60 50ps/£20 10ps & £150 20p tokens, a very profitable emptier if you ask me. :P :lol: 8)
I don't think Win-a-Gain was an emptier - the gamble just maxed out as the machine got happier. If somebody had just won the JP, the gamble would constantly lose at the first gamble then as it recovered, the gamble would climb. Basically, an early example of programmed blocks.

The emptier for win-again(and there was a token version for a while)was not through the gamble .as kid gloves quite rightly stated it blocked the gamble unless ready.

There was however an emptier .....but......it involved plugging it,iirc whilst it was clocking up a bank.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:44 pm
by blackmogu
Earliest empty that I can remember was a 2p/£2 JP aound the time of Spoof, Bonanza etc.

It was a bingo card themed machine that awarded a superhold upon hold now and again, that didn't reset the reels properly upon cancel and quick hold.

This was about 20 years ago.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:49 pm
by mr lugsy
This is super cobra ,think you'll agree it's not that much like win again John. :o :shock: :? 8) :lol:

Thanks again to gambogaz1 for originally posting the pic on here.

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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:50 pm
by blackmogu
john32 wrote:Does anybody on fruit chat do the trick on nickleodien,
The trick was to avoid taking a win until all the wins upgraded to £4.80,
It was a fantastic trick, the best result was just over £20, most of the time i left with a £10 profit.
:shock: :lol: :wink: :P 8)
Yes, I used to do the Nickelodeon on the bank of 5 of them in Bournemouth Pier back in the day. That place had so many good machines, brings back memories of the times when gambling was entertaining.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:39 pm
by Mr McStreak
The first machines I remember performing tricks on were spoof, (the second one where you needed sound), cash counter and snap happy. Gamballs were easy to do as long as you could get away with rocking the machine around a bit.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:13 am
by Spyder
how the fuck can a "pro" say that the first empties were in 2000???

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:51 am
by blackmogu
Spyder wrote:how the fuck can a "pro" say that the first empties were in 2000???
1. Being a professional in an area of employment does not imply a comprehensive historical knowledge of the field.

2. Stop trolling.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:29 am
by mr cheese
1978-79 had 6 one arm bandits in arcade,you could slow pull the handle dropping reels down 1 at a time once you lined up reels for a win it was a fast pull on handle,reels would stay were they were awarding win jp was a pound 2p play,used to do around 40 - 100 a day especially in summer,was just a twat getting rid of them and god knows how much i wasted trying to win a few 10ps here and there with them.....So does that make me 5th generation John 32......I actually had these for around a year n half, made more at the age of 9 than on any empty in the last 30 yr...oh apart from the 10p Bullys........