Unfair Experiences Which You Have Followed Up In Writing

Noels Beard · Post by **Noels Beard** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:09 pm

Well this would be another genuine point that could be submitted. People on this board seem to spend a lot of time procrastinating, we do live in a democracy. Surely rather than sitting on hands letting companies / government get away with stuff - a proactive response would be a little more positive? At least you can say you tried then.

Dunhamzzz · Post by **Dunhamzzz** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:17 pm

I've never seen this Oscar guy around before but agree 100% with his sentiments.

Oscar · Post by **Oscar** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:23 pm

You owe me a clipper.... One that has bars and a 7 on it.

Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! · Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:44 pm

maverick69 wrote:black Greg has used the race card more than once lol

Yes, he was going into a fire pub and I told him he should use the race card if the landlord got heavy.

So he did and nearly got his head punched in!

As for the race card in my opinion, I think race is exploited by all ethnics many times when it suits the situation.

Calling a Pakistani a Paki is deemed racist.
But a person living in Great Britain is a Briton.
We, the Press and TV shorten this to "Brit".

A person from Pakistan is a Pakistani.
Shorten this to "Paki" & suddenly it's racist.

How come?

Noels Beard · Post by **Noels Beard** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:56 pm

Surely a Pakistani living in the UK would identify themselves as an ethnic minority, and therefore be sensitive to the indigenous population referring to their race. Most Pakistani people I have met have no problem with talking about their race but find the term 'Paki' insulting. This is just an etymological issue, it is a word that has become regarded as an insult. Fuck is another word that is regarded as rude. They're all just noises fundamentally, but I think out of respect of others' preconceptions we should avoid using these words. As for 'Brits', we are not a nation that has relocated much recently. If we were driven to live in a foreign country, we too may draw offence from that word: if it were to be used inappropriately.

milk monitor · Post by **milk monitor** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:03 pm

Noels Beard wrote:We have all been the victim of unfair barrings, or underhand treatment in Pubs and Arcades. Currently Parliament is in the process of reviewing the outcomes of the 2005 Gambling Act through a Select Committee. I have skimmed through the evidence submitted and I've decided to write to the members: documenting details of my treatment in specific machine locations, and the correspondence which has led from this. I hope not only that this may lead to some embarrassment for the parties I highlight, but will maybe lead to an organisation being created to safeguard the end users of the many gambling machines in the UK. If anyone has any experiences, which involve written correspondence, then please reply here.

Man alive!

This post is desperation personified. The horse has bolted, let it go.

Noels Beard · Post by **Noels Beard** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:25 pm

Not following here I'm afraid. Please clarify.

eastangliapro · Post by **eastangliapro** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:34 pm

Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! wrote:Yes, he was going into a fire pub and I told him he should use the race card if the landlord got heavy.

So he did and nearly got his head punched in!

As for the race card in my opinion, I think race is exploited by all ethnics many times when it suits the situation.

Calling a Pakistani a Paki is deemed racist.
But a person living in Great Britain is a Briton.
We, the Press and TV shorten this to "Brit".

A person from Pakistan is a Pakistani.
Shorten this to "Paki" & suddenly it's racist.

How come?

Because this country is a disgrace and has a serious lack of back bone.

milk monitor · Post by **milk monitor** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:35 pm

The game is done, stop clinging.

Noels Beard · Post by **Noels Beard** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:43 pm

This has nothing to do with clinging to whatever you believe is now coming to pass. This is an exercise in democracy. This is about standing up and saying people are being treated unfairly, please do something about it. Or change the law. Or change the machines.

I've said many times before, I don't like the way the world works. However, given the rules and abiding by those said rules - I believe I should be allowed to get on without prejudice. If you have lower expectations: shame on you my friend.

eastangliapro · Post by **eastangliapro** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:46 pm

no it's not,a lot of idiot's are getting stuff at the minute hence why things never last for over a month....then wait and see pictures put on facebook and 'top boys' bragging to their minions about how they are 'smashing it' at the minute,they will soon be fucked when it depends on using your own knowledge to get round machines.......it's a bit of a halfwit's game at the minute.

messiah · Post by **messiah** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:19 pm

Noels Beard wrote:Surely a Pakistani living in the UK would identify themselves as an ethnic minority, and therefore be sensitive to the indigenous population referring to their race. Most Pakistani people I have met have no problem with talking about their race but find the term 'Paki' insulting. This is just an etymological issue, it is a word that has become regarded as an insult. Fuck is another word that is regarded as rude. They're all just noises fundamentally, but I think out of respect of others' preconceptions we should avoid using these words. As for 'Brits', we are not a nation that has relocated much recently. If we were driven to live in a foreign country, we too may draw offence from that word: if it were to be used inappropriately.

My friends who are Pakistanis call someone from Pakistan a 'Paki' - strange that I would get get my head kicked in for using the same language.

Had someone at work (French guy) who was being clever and using 'nigger' pretending it was something he'd heard on songs and didn't know the connotations, and that it was okay.

I had to explain to him that it may be the case that black rappers use it in songs, however if a white man went around saying it he would get sacked very quickly.

I didn't particularly like the way he used it either, deliberately to one of the black employees - who fortunately was a diamond geezer and didn't react - although I made a point of explaining to the French guy why it was unacceptable in front of him so he knew it was being acted on and wouldn't be tolerated.

Those two had one of the more interesting little dynamics between staff that made it quite challenging (and fun) to manage a shift.

AMK · Post by **AMK** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:37 pm

I completely agree in the respect that the Gambling Commission are useless. I reported an operator for paying out cheques on a B3 payout, which bounced. Pretty much the same standard response drivel. Maybe you should open a Fruitmeister forum to rival casinomeister Noel?

They seem to get results when people complain via their site about poor treatment/non payout.

Noels Beard · Post by **Noels Beard** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:18 pm

It's an interesting idea. However, I'm not sure I'm the ideal candidate to launch such a site. Also I think the Gambling Commission is ideally placed to sort these things out, and just needs it's socks pulled up. Do you still have the correspondence with regard to the cheque payouts? This would be ideal. I'll obviously blank out all your personal details.

Roll_With_It_Russ · Post by **Roll_With_It_Russ** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:09 pm

The gamblingcommisions veiw on the matter is that they require operators to have a complaints procedure, only when you have been through that escalating it to the point where the complaint procedure is exhausted will they look into a complaint. What they will actually do at this point I don't know. If an operator does not have a complaints procedure they are not complying anyway, but what happens should you report them I don't know.

As for the complaint procedures themselves I don't know any legal requirement for what they have to involve other than who to complain to and what will happen is outlined. Might be perfectly leagl to say write to this address and we will respond in writing once we have looked into it.